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lyx2no
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Message 16 of 453 (520300)
08-20-2009 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by ICANT
08-20-2009 12:39 AM


Storm is an Understatement
Who said anything about storms, typhoons, or the like.
18 kg per square foot per minute for 40 days and 40 nights is above and beyond the call of duty for anything that could be given the name "storm".

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Message 18 of 453 (520304)
08-20-2009 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by pandion
08-20-2009 4:27 PM


Re: Storm?
the cold water would make the pitch brittle and it would crack
According to mfaber that cold water would have been 1800K.

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Message 63 of 453 (520460)
08-21-2009 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by iano
08-21-2009 10:58 AM


Re: Let's be resinable
volume fitted out with balsa wood
Was the balsa wood carried over from South America by the llamas Noah saved?

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Message 111 of 453 (520733)
08-23-2009 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by iano
08-23-2009 3:47 PM


Re: Reality: displacement is what makes boats float or not
We've no way of knowing what the sea conditions were in the locality of the ark and shouldn't necessarily suppose stormy.
We know more then 7 inches of rain fell on the ark every minute for 40 days and 40 nights. That's as much rain as a hurricane drops in two hours. Why shouldn't we necessarily suppose stormy?

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Message 118 of 453 (520755)
08-23-2009 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by iano
08-23-2009 4:37 PM


Re: Reality: displacement is what makes boats float or not
Is that average or local conditions? I'd imagine that amount of water falling uniformly to have a dampening effect on the ocean - if anything.
That's average. You'd better hope its everywhere, because if the water then has to flow from the areas of high rain fall to low rain fall the torrents will be rushing along at hundreds of miles per hour. What do you imagine will happen when two such currents meet? How do you imagine your ark-cum-flotsam would respond? Would "wee" be the exclamation that first comes to mind?
How does one keep that much water out of their wicker-works boat? How does one Keep the straw, grain and meal dry? How does one avoid trench foot?
The Bay of Fundy fills 56 feet in six hours or so. That's 1.9 inches a minute. One does not want to be in the way.

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Message 123 of 453 (520766)
08-23-2009 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Peg
08-23-2009 10:00 PM


Anything Goes
we can assume he did it the way that would cause the boat to break up, or we can assume he must have reinforced it in a way that kept it secure.
All ways available to him using only wood would have resulted in the ark breaking up. To assume he built the ark in a way that wouldn't break-up would assume he built it out of iron. Why not? We don't know what gopher wood is. Why not assume it was a type of patterned iron, like damask, which imitates wood grain? Find the lost iron works of Gopher and you've proven Noah's ark.
It's not a coincidence that evidence rhymes with schmevidence, Peg.
Edited by lyx2no, : Spelling of schmevidence. Ya' gots to get it right or folks'll think you're a twerp.

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Message 194 of 453 (521163)
08-26-2009 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by ICANT
08-26-2009 9:03 AM


Re: What archeology shows for boat building technology
Just like you keep ignoring the fact the ark was not a boat.
Your suggestion of a rudderless, three tier crate wouldn't relieve the problem of breakup but increase it. And with only a 5:3 section it would roll like a log without adding yet again its own weight in ballast.
Just like everyone ignore's the fact all land mass was in one place in Genesis when the flood took place. Which would reduce the amount of water necessary to cover it.
I do suppose if all the land mass was in one place the extra gravity would allow the water to pile. I can see this cutting the 11 km down to 10.990 km. [sarcasm]That solves everything.[/sarcasm]
Nothing about the ability or knowledge to use the material just access.
Do you think you could put a few paragraphs of argument and explanation together instead of disingenuous one liners? Very often the points you're trying to make with your snappy comments are delusional and, consequently, not as apparent to the rest of us as they are to you.

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Message 248 of 453 (522839)
09-05-2009 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by greentwiga
09-05-2009 12:13 PM


Get Your Ass Out of Town
If they were saying Noah built an ark 30 cubits by 5 cubits by 3 cubits and got his asses, goats and pigs to high ground we'd not be having this discussion?

It's not the man that knows the most that has the most to say.
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