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PaulK
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Message 147 of 453 (520929)
08-25-2009 3:46 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by Peg
08-25-2009 3:33 AM


Re: Not 300 ft boards! Doh!!
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mythical people dont turn up in the genealogies of real people.
They don't ? Julius Caesar claimed descent from the goddess Venus via the Trojan prince Aeneas. I'd call Venus mythical and Julius Caesar real. Wouldn't you ?

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Message 151 of 453 (520934)
08-25-2009 4:07 AM
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08-25-2009 3:58 AM


Re: Not 300 ft boards! Doh!!
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do you have his genealogy?
I can't find a full listing on line, but why would that matter ? Once you concede that people may claim descent form a mythical ancestor there is no bar to creating a genealogy including mythical ancestors.

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Message 154 of 453 (520937)
08-25-2009 4:51 AM
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08-25-2009 4:35 AM


Re: Not 300 ft boards! Doh!!
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evidence matters
So where's your evidence that genealogies of real people never include mythical people ? We have evidence that people claimed descent from mythical figures. We have evidence of genealogies being cooked up to support claimed ancestry. Even if you dicount Anglagard's evidence it's certainly clear that it can happen.
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if noah wasnt a real person, then neither is the whole jewish race
That's begging the question. It's like saying that if Venus wasn't a real goddess the Roman Julii wouldn't exist.

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PaulK
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Message 160 of 453 (520943)
08-25-2009 5:38 AM
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08-25-2009 5:09 AM


Re: Not 300 ft boards! Doh!!
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Julias may have claimed to have descended from a god, but no one ever claimed that Noah was
That depends on how you interpret Luke 3:38!
Regardless this is an evasion. You asserted that mythical people do not appear in genealogies. You were the one who said that evidence was needed. Where is your evidence ?
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he was simply a man who's geneology is still available...there is nothing extravagant about his geneology, its a fairly standard record and for this reason its quite believable.
His genealogy contains clear indications of myth (and that includes his descendants, too!)

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Message 236 of 453 (522277)
09-02-2009 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 235 by Theodoric
09-02-2009 10:02 AM


Re: reed boats don't get waterlogged
His sources don't seem too accurate. Everything I turn up on Google says that the 60 foot Tigris sailed for 5 months (is that "many" to you ?) and was burned in protest at the wars near the mouth of the Red Sea - in Yemen, Ethiopia and Somalia.

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