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NosyNed
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Message 1 of 87 (82425)
02-03-2004 1:03 AM


NosyNed writes:
Pardon? You think that the dinosaurs survived the flood and were reintroduced?
simple writes:
yes
This is from the Brown tectonics thread. It is too much to pass up.
Ok, simple, the dinosaurs were around after the flood at about 4500 years ago.
How then is it that all their fossils are only in strata that are under strata with more modern animals in it. Where are the elephant fossils in the same strata? Why are the all under the iridium layer world wide? Why are almost all of the dinosaur fossils found actually fossilized while the mammoth bones are not? Why are there no dinosaurs found partially frozen even though some lived above the arctic circle and antarctic? Why are there no modern pollens found with them?
It seems you might have spoken too soon, no?

Common sense isn't

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roxrkool
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Message 2 of 87 (82432)
02-03-2004 1:17 AM
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02-03-2004 1:03 AM


Yeah, simple can't use the hydrologic sorting mechanism this time...
BTW, where IS the flood strata?
[This message has been edited by roxrkool, 02-03-2004]

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Cthulhu
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Message 3 of 87 (82620)
02-03-2004 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by NosyNed
02-03-2004 1:03 AM


And...
Why aren't virtually all large vertebrates alive today extinct?

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DBlevins
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Message 4 of 87 (82628)
02-03-2004 2:19 PM
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02-03-2004 1:03 AM


I just recently visited my University bookstore and lo and behold there in the "ack!" -> science book section was a book by some creationist, stating that dinosaurs and humans were contemporaneous. On the book cover was a footprint of a human imprinted within a dinosaur one. I swear I came so close to grabbing the book and bringing it to the attention to the bookstaore admin that this didn't belong in the science section but the religion section. It even had a blurb in the back talking about the Noadic (sp?) Flood. It was written in the popular science format. The kicker was that I was looking for books by Sagan or Gould and they had none.

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truthlover
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Message 5 of 87 (82631)
02-03-2004 2:29 PM
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02-03-2004 1:17 AM


BTW, where IS the flood strata?
Don't they say that all the strata above the Pre-cambrian rock deposited by the flood?

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mark24
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Message 6 of 87 (82669)
02-03-2004 3:39 PM
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02-03-2004 2:29 PM


TL,
Don't they say that all the strata above the Pre-cambrian rock deposited by the flood?
Generally no, because then they have to explain all the Precambrian fossils, & they can't.
Mark

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roxrkool
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Message 7 of 87 (82672)
02-03-2004 3:50 PM
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02-03-2004 2:29 PM


TL, some creationists say that, others don't and say the flood was higher or lower in the geologic record. However, I have yet to see one creationist show me where the flood started and where it ended.
Apparently, none of them are that confident yet... after two hundred years of flood research.
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Rubystars
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Message 8 of 87 (125711)
07-19-2004 2:46 PM
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02-03-2004 2:19 PM


Libraries and Bookstores
Libraries and Bookstores seem to have a common problem, they don't have a "pseudoscience" section. They could even call it "Alternative science" if they wanted to be kind, but they don't even have the balls to create such a section.
It is jarring to go to the science section to pick up some books and then see something written by Velikovsky or Morris.
Is there any way that changing the system of sorting books could be accomplished? This would be a political movement I could really get behind.

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Robert Byers
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Message 9 of 87 (126001)
07-20-2004 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by NosyNed
02-03-2004 1:03 AM


I think I can answer your questions.
There are no dinosaurs above the k-t line because this line represents the flood.
thier was a switch of roles. Befofr the flood mammals were restricted or small and after the flood dinosaurs were resticted in thier area.
Then sometime after they just died out as often happens in the animal kingdom.
Indeed the flood event and continent upheavel was the process for fossilization. It was unique and after the flood fossilization only happened here and there usually do too localized volcanoes.
The mammoths were post flood and couldn't be fossilized like creatures in the flood event. also the continents were separated and the weather was different. There was no polar regions in pre-flood days.
It is an error to think dinosaurs were in a arctic envirorment or even the present latitue that the arcticts are now in.
Also dinosaurs is just a human word to classify creatures and not an actual animal distinction. Crocs and turtles and other lizards are dino's also in any sense.
Regards

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Cthulhu
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Message 10 of 87 (126014)
07-20-2004 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Robert Byers
07-20-2004 4:13 PM


What...the...****
Also dinosaurs is just a human word to classify creatures and not an actual animal distinction. Crocs and turtles and other lizards are dino's also in any sense.
Dinosaur is an actual animal distinction referring to creatures that share certain details of morphology that no other animal shares. The most prominent one is the morphology of the humerus. Crocodylians, turtles, and lizards are not dinosaurs in any sense of the word.
Congratulations. You know absolutely nothing that deals with what you're talking about.

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jar
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Message 11 of 87 (126016)
07-20-2004 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Robert Byers
07-20-2004 4:13 PM


Why did the flood happen?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 12 of 87 (126020)
07-20-2004 5:12 PM
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07-20-2004 4:13 PM


Oh, crud, Robert.
How long was the period from Eden to Flud? Was there time enough in those pre-Tertiary days to build reefs 500 meters thick from slow-growing corals? Was there time enough to deposit all the coal in Pennsylvania? How about to lay down 2500 meters of laminated shale/sandstone in the Delaware Basin? The White Cliffs of Dover?

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Message 13 of 87 (126021)
07-20-2004 5:20 PM
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07-20-2004 4:13 PM


quote:
Befofr the flood mammals were restricted or small and after the flood dinosaurs were resticted in thier area.
Evidence of this please. I could say that alien artifacts, such as UFO's, were also restricted. That doesn't mean that I have evidence for UFO invasions during the cambrian.
quote:
It was unique and after the flood fossilization only happened here and there usually do too localized volcanoes.
Then why do we find fossils in sediments that could only have formed in lake beds?
quote:
It is an error to think dinosaurs were in a arctic envirorment or even the present latitue that the arcticts are now in.
Oh really! What evidence do you have that would rewrite the last 60 years of geologic studies constructed by hundreds of thousands of geologists? Let me guess, nothing besides your own fantasies and unsupported assertions?

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Mike_King
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Message 14 of 87 (126041)
07-20-2004 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Robert Byers
07-20-2004 4:13 PM


quote:
I think I can answer your questions.
There are no dinosaurs above the k-t line because this line represents the flood.
thier was a switch of roles. Befofr the flood mammals were restricted or small and after the flood dinosaurs were resticted in thier area.
Then sometime after they just died out as often happens in the animal kingdom.
Indeed the flood event and continent upheavel was the process for fossilization. It was unique and after the flood fossilization only happened here and there usually do too localized volcanoes.
The mammoths were post flood and couldn't be fossilized like creatures in the flood event. also the continents were separated and the weather was different. There was no polar regions in pre-flood days.
It is an error to think dinosaurs were in a arctic envirorment or even the present latitue that the arcticts are now in.
Also dinosaurs is just a human word to classify creatures and not an actual animal distinction. Crocs and turtles and other lizards are dino's also in any sense.
Regards
Where in the Bible did you get this Robert? The Dove brought back an olive branch so with all this upheaval, the olive trees were surely buried with the rest. Be sure an olive branch takes years to grow

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roxrkool
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Message 15 of 87 (126147)
07-21-2004 1:56 AM
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07-20-2004 4:13 PM


quote:
There are no dinosaurs above the k-t line because this line represents the flood.
So then how would you explain the Permian extinction event?

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