Genetic 'Bottlenecks' and the Flood

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Exactly right. Creationists should be able to find bottlenecks in every species of plant and animal dated to the same time-frame, ie the flood.

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I don't know if domestication and human breeding would upset such calculations - perhaps we would need to select cells from uncontrolled groups like wild birds. Would this be a sensible, credible and practical experiment?

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On the scale like that of the flood, I don't see how human activity could skew the data.Definitely a credible experiment. Wonder why the creationists haven't already carried it out? It would prove their point once and for all, after all.------------------
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I was hoping to get some idea of the difficulties and costs involved.

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It should be easy enough to do. The data is probably already available. If you could find five or six species with a bottleneck at 6000bce, the snowball would start rolling and no-one could stop it.Just challenge the Creationists orgs to find ten species with such a bottleneck.------------------
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Originally posted by Mammuthus:
Actually, out of curiosity, can anyone find a single example of a species that has been identified where the genetic bottleneck dates back to 6000 years ago? There may be but it is nothing I have looked for or seen widely reported.

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Ah... and that is exactly my point. Why bother with analyzing every species when you can't find even a few?Conversely, even one species that does not show such a bottleneck derails the whole thing.------------------
http://www.hells-handmaiden.com[This message has been edited by John, 08-29-2002]

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By the way, the link you provided to the Menotti-Raymond, M. and O’Brien, S.J. paper does not work for me. I have tried unsuccessfully to find another - is there one you know?

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This one should work. Just a moment...------------------
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Originally posted by Quetzal:
Thanks John. Appears I had an extra "http://" in there.

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If one is good, you'd think two would be better. Bump.....I was liking this one.------------------
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