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LucyTheApe Inactive Member
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G'day Nuggin,
Animals are slaves of instinct. They do not have the ability to reason deductively and do not have the power of self determination. That is why you've never read a good book written by a turtle. And why apes have never ventured into space. There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member
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A leap straight into rhetoric, nothing's changed around here, Jar! Can you give me an example of an animal that has created an automaton?Or a bird that decided it wanted to be landscape architect? Edited by AdminModulous, : content hidden use peek to see There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
OK Jar, next questions...
There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
Jar, do you have a reference to the memoirs of those space apes? Are you saying that humans are apes?
Do you really want to address my stated differences between humans and animals, or not? There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
Jar, at least try. When and why did only one type of animal develop the ability to reason?
How and why is it, that only one type of animal can decide how to live its life? There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
Thanks and G'day Coyote, nice list of suppositions, but no mention of the development of REASON and SELF DETERMINATION.
There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
Jar unwittingly writes: There is ample evidence that Gorillas, Bonobos, Chimpanzees, Orangutans, Ravens, Crows, Mockingbirds, Beaver, Elephant, Dolphin as well as other critters have the ability to reason and decide how to live their lives. Great, lets have some examples. And it is of the utmost importance to this thread; you are saying Apes are human. There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
Jar, what does it mean to be human?
No, I am saying that humans are apes. I am one of the Great Apes. You are one of the Great Apes. All humans are Primates. So at least some apes are human according to you. But you're Great, hey? Just like Darwin et al were the highest form of animal; the apex of the evolutionary process.What place does your a priori " All humans are Primates." have in this debate? Those things are for your personal world view. In this very thread there are examples of ravens reasoning and building tools. Have you read the thread? I've already explained I'm talking about deductive reasoning not induction. All living animals learn from experience, that's instinct. I haven't read all the posts in the thread, but I will. Is there any differences between the abilities of humans and apes; and if so what are they, in your opinion? There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member
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LTA in response to Coyote re: where are the suppositions writes:
To mention a few.If you can't see it I can't help you! There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member |
Hi Zen Monkey we have a lot in common, we are both primates.
ZM writes: To bring this around to the alleged topic of this thread, I don't think that it's surprising that no other of our Homo cousins have survived. What's surprising is that we've lasted this long. This is an interesting observation, can you please elaborate? There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member
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Thanks Coragyps,
The Caledonian Crow is a fine example of inductive learning, adaptive behavior, without which no life would survive. And yes, I get the picture;
There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member
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G'day Mazzy.
Mazzy the enlightened writes: ...the difference between mankind and apes is our higher reasoning powers and perception. Mankind was created in the image of God... They still haven't shown how an ape developed the ability to do mathematics; they can't. They also wont be able to show how apes developed to ability to percieve reality and determine their destiny. They will just use the same useless rhetoric they have always used.
Mazzy the enlightened writes: I suggest there are no mid species fossils found. Rather they are either human or ape. They'll create them out of their imagination, something that they have no answer for in their evolutionary paradigm. It's difficult to understand that intelligent humans can hold such a ridiculous belief. Edited by LucyTheApe, : grammar There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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LucyTheApe Inactive Member
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hooha the descenter writes: a cosmic Jewish zombie screwed his own teenager virgin mother so he could get her pregnant with himself. He did this so he could sacrifice himself to himself in order to save the world from himself because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake with legs to eat fruit from a magical tree The Angel Gabriel approached Mary, our Mother and Eternal Virgin, and asked her if she would consent to be overcome by the Holy Spirit to inpregnate her; She agreed. God then became flesh. Sin requires blood. He shed his blood for our sins. Did Adam walk out of the garden proud. I don't think so, he left a broken man doomed to die, he realised what he had done and so did Eve. There no doubt exist natural laws, but once this fine reason of ours was corrupted, it corrupted everything. blz paskal
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