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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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The only reference to this quote from World Book is on Creationist sites.
It seems there is a cut and paste out there, that has hit a few forums, that mentions this line from World Book. I cannot find the original doc. This is the attribution.*World Book Encyclopedia, Vol. 6, p. 335 (1982 edition). Anyone have that edition to confirm and to get the context? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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Do you believe that Buddha, Muhammad and Confucius existed? Buddha is a probable no. I consider his historicity to be similar to that of Jesus. Compare Buddha to Alexander the Great who is of roughly the same time period. We have tons of historical evidence and artifacts for Alexander, nothing for Buddha. Also, Buddah is not the fat guy most Americans think of as Buddha. That is Budai Muhammad is also questionable for the same reasons I question the historicity of Jesus. There are no contemporary accounts. There seems to be a bloodline from Muhammad but this is attributed to tradition not actual historical sources. Confucius is most probably not a historical character. There is actually some recent scholarship that suggests Confucius was a creation of Jesuit missionaries.
Confucius and the Scholars Unless I see actual historical evidence I am skeptical of the historical existence of these figures. I am also skeptical of the historical existence of Jesus. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
Dr Adequate, that is not the picture of LLuc at all. Please tell us what it is a picture of.
LLuc is a flat faced ape. It is your evolutionary researchers that describe it as such. Again you do realize that Humans are apes, don't you?
They also specifically state that it is not in the homo line and yet has morphology only compared to homo. Please show where they say this. Are you lying? This is what the article says.
quote: Please show where any of this supports anything you are trying to spout. Why do you think anyone feels there is a need for this to be a direct ancestor of humans? You do realize a flat face makes it more resembling humans than any other great ape don't you? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
How about addressing my post? I have clearly showed that you misrepresented the article you linked to. I guess maybe I was correct and you were lying about what the article said.
eg punctuated equilibrium the luck of genetic drfit, epigentic Mendellian style inheritance, HGT in Prokaryotes etc.
Do you have any idea what any of this is? The gish gallop continues. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
I have no idea what you are going on about re Australians. Australian Aborigines are humans that have adapted to their environment. When Australia was discovered they were no hairy half human apes here either but human beings just like you and me. Are you trying to suggest Australian Aborigines are anything but fully human? You seem to go on about them alot.
You are the one that suggested aborigines were not human.
Mazzy writes:
Message 298 There are plenty of areas on the planet only gotton to over the last 200 years eg Australia and there are no ape people here or in Africa or anywhere else. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
Thats interesting that the founders of major religions did not exist. Im not sure if its because that didnt exist or because people dont want them to exist. Ill stop now so I dont take the thread offtopic. But you do want to take the thread off topic or you would never have mentioned the subject. Are you going to open a new topic so we can discuss this more? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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I accept your response in that the theory of evolution is just a theory and is not a proven fact. You might want to educate yourself a little bit. Something that is a scientific theory is not an educated guess. Maybe you can read this and attempt to understand.
Scientific Laws, Hypotheses, and Theories quote: Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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