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Author Topic:   Walt Brown's super-tectonics
simple 
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Message 301 of 307 (82878)
02-03-2004 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by edge
02-03-2004 9:55 PM


I don't know. First, define pyshics.
misspelled word similar to spritualist predictor, often with a ball. For example Jean Dixon
Yep. According to Walt that is. Walt is wrong. So, what's your point?
point is maybe it's not Walt who's wrong!

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Coragyps
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Message 302 of 307 (82879)
02-03-2004 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 292 by simple
02-03-2004 5:43 PM


Two billion light years away? Therein lies a good portion of why it ain't so. Why would one assume that distance?
One wouldn't assume that distance: one would make attempts to measure it. The distance to Messier 106 has been measured, using plain old 500 B.C. style geometry, at 25,000,000 light years, plus or minus about a million. Modern telescopes can pick out individual stars in M106. My pitiful little telescope will let me see M106.
A similar galaxy 80 times further from us will look 1/80 as large, and much fainter, than this one. A supernova that far away, though, can still be detected, and guess what: one out there looks just like one at the distance of M106, except further away! Why should that be, in case after case after case?
It's a little like if I drove over to Big Spring, Texas, down the road from me, and looked west on Interstate 20. You can see about 15 miles' worth of straight highway from a rise there. Very near you, you can see headlights of semi-trucks: bright, even resolved into the driver- and passenger-side lights. A mile back, you just scarcely see both lights, not so terribly bright. Fifteen miles back, you see tiny, faint, single glimmers for headlights. But even though headlights differ some in intensity, you can tell (and could quantify, with a little effort) which are far away. The semis don't start as Matchbox toys, morph to Tonkas, and then to real semis: distance is what makes the difference in brightness and angular extent. The same works for galaxies, and for supernovae.
And then there are several other methods to measure galaxy distances, too. The Highway Patrol only use Doppler shift to catch the local speeders, but every one of those faraway galaxies is speeding.

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simple 
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Message 303 of 307 (82880)
02-03-2004 10:02 PM
Reply to: Message 291 by crashfrog
02-03-2004 5:41 PM


.. It gives weird dates when you do it wrong. It gives very accurate dates when you do it right
I guess you need the touch

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Coragyps
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Message 304 of 307 (82882)
02-03-2004 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by simple
02-03-2004 9:56 PM


Millions or billions is bad.
No, that's "Four legs good, two legs bad!"

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simple 
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Message 305 of 307 (82887)
02-03-2004 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 302 by Coragyps
02-03-2004 10:01 PM


..one would make attempts to measure it
Yes I am aware atempts were made
..A similar galaxy 80 times further from us will look 1/80 as large, and much fainter, than this one
At least it would look smaller!
..Why should that be, in case after case after case?
I thought you were the expert? ..How far away was the closest or farthest star on the day Adam was made? (Since we're asking questions)

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simple 
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Message 306 of 307 (82888)
02-03-2004 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 304 by Coragyps
02-03-2004 10:04 PM


No, that's "Four legs good, two legs bad
Whatever gets you through the night!

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Message 307 of 307 (82898)
02-03-2004 11:22 PM


Well, this topic (manure) piled up 164 new messages, on 2/2 and 2/3/04.
I hope everyone is proud of their contributions.
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