General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 13.0

*Blink*I cannot believe that you are thinking that! Taz is about to get suspended if he does any more disappearing post tricks. As for your intrusion? No big deal, really. I rather enjoyed your insight.

After my own review of this situation and the actions taken by the moderators, I shall offer my critique:Jar has always had the strong opinion, (logically sound, by the way) that Biblical Creationism is unsupportable.I could even go so far as to say that I believe he is right in that regard.Jar was actually supporting Faiths right to be illogical.Percy, it seems, was simply reminding Jar to be polite to Buzsaw....those two have duked it out for years, and Buz perceives Jar as mean.I know Jar and his style, and have no perception of meanness from him.I am usually too much of an easygoing Mod (some say wimp) to suspend anybody for emotionally charged interactions such as these....but if I were doing the suspension, I would have given Jar a day at the most! Keep in mind, however, that I let Nemesis slide the other day for challenging Jar. Thus, I am being consistent by doing nothing. Boss, I share your respect of Jar, and have nothing further to say.

Its in how it is done, Jar. This forum is not the same type of competitive atmosphere as your old boarding school porch debates. Logic and common sense are not the only game in town here. We seek to present the rational as well as the irrational. The mundane and the mystical.Of course, all viewpoints should be supported in some way shape or form, if possible. Often, however, Faith/Belief views are by nature unsupportable except in scriptural context.(itself a debate)Respect for the other individual is important---even if you personally think they are a conman, a delusional cultist, or a brainwashed teenager.If, on the other hand, they become frustrated and don't respond to your (polite) constructive argument, chances are they will be the first ones to call you a name. In that case, we all shall see it publically and if a moderator catches it, it will be dealt with.You have every right to ask someone to present their evidence. You ask me all the time, and occasionally I have some...most of the time I do not. Such is the nature of belief.Buz has publically apologized for calling you a liar. Many creationists are frustrated with you because you dont ascribe to dogma. You test all truth claims against logic, reason, and reality.You don't have to win every argument in order to have the respect and attention of others.The audience of lurkers and viewers knows full well the points and counterpoints.

I think its Nems way of telling us that he would never impose authority on anyone without first accepting the same absolute standard for himself. (Plus it gives him an opportunity to bow out of this argument gracefully! )

Would this logic not apply to ourselves as well? If we convince ourselves that our arguments are ironclad and not open to question, might it be that we become our own authority and thus potentially close minded?(I know that many absolutist Popes were this way. )

Do you wish the thread to be reopened?