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johnfolton 
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Message 16 of 105 (385591)
02-16-2007 11:44 AM
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02-16-2007 11:21 AM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Cut the root into two- or three-inch pieces. Each piece will become a duplicate of the parent plant.
I notice, Charley, how they recommend always soaking the cuttings in water for five months...........
Its called hydroponics, meaning the floating mats of vegetation would of still would of been producing leaves food for the creatures even 5 months after the fresh water flood.
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Plant physiology researchers discovered in the 1800s that plants absorb essential mineral nutrients as inorganic ions in water. In natural conditions, soil acts as a mineral nutrient reservoir but the soil itself is not essential to plant growth.
Hydroponics - Wikipedia

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Message 17 of 105 (385592)
02-16-2007 11:47 AM
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02-14-2007 6:39 PM


sidelined writes:
... after being submerged for at least 150 days no vegetation could be left upon the entire planet and therefore there would be no forests remaining.
There is a loophole:
quote:
Gen 8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
Gen 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
According to the "documentary evidence", at least one olive tree did survive.

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Taz
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Message 18 of 105 (385595)
02-16-2007 11:49 AM
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02-16-2007 10:15 AM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Charley writes:
Not true, It rained down thus it was a fresh water flood, 40 day flood, its a perfect situation for replication of trees because a seed is not needed when pieces of roots is an easy way to duplicate parent plants.
Have you ever tried to mix salt water with fresh water? Ever noticed how the top tastes just as salty as the bottom after you mixed it? It's called a homogeneous mixture. And no, it's not a 40 day flood. It rained for 40 days and 40 nights. It took another year for the water to recede to a safe level.

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Message 19 of 105 (385598)
02-16-2007 12:07 PM
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02-16-2007 11:37 AM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Again you apparently have no understanding of what salt does to plant growth. And you are clearly ignoring that being extendedly submerged in brine water kills virtually all plants. No live root = No method of duplication.
The fresh water washed back to the oceans because salt ocean water basins were lower than the continents. The fresh water flood would of pressed back against the oceans because its elevation was lower than the continents. It would take a long time for the salt water over the oceans to mix with the freshwater rising up over the continents.

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Message 20 of 105 (385599)
02-16-2007 12:16 PM
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02-16-2007 12:07 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
This is a wind-up isn't it? you are not seriously presenting that as a solution are you?

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Message 21 of 105 (385600)
02-16-2007 12:18 PM
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02-16-2007 11:49 AM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Have you ever tried to mix salt water with fresh water? Ever noticed how the top tastes just as salty as the bottom after you mixed it? It's called a homogeneous mixture. And no, it's not a 40 day flood. It rained for 40 days and 40 nights. It took another year for the water to recede to a safe level.
It says it took a year before it was safe to travel on the earth, not that the water had not yet receded to a safe level. That the waters decreased continually for them 10 months means that it didn't start becoming salty till after the freshwaters mixed with the oceans waters.

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Message 22 of 105 (385601)
02-16-2007 12:21 PM
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02-16-2007 12:07 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
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The fresh water washed back to the oceans because salt ocean water basins were lower than the continents. The fresh water flood would of pressed back against the oceans because its elevation was lower than the continents. It would take a long time for the salt water over the oceans to mix with the freshwater rising up over the continents.
Are you insane? Do you have any concept of what osmosis is much less equilibrium? You're not even rational.
You don't even make sense. Elevation wouldn't prevent the rapid mixing of salt and fresh water, especially if the fresh water came from rain.

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Message 23 of 105 (385602)
02-16-2007 12:27 PM
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02-16-2007 12:16 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Re: Trees can replicate without germination
This is a wind-up isn't it? you are not seriously presenting that as a solution are you?
I just see it all as "a part" of what was happening given it was a freshwater flood over the continents. Perhaps a little salty on the edges, etc...

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Message 24 of 105 (385603)
02-16-2007 12:30 PM
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02-16-2007 12:21 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
This poster is a troll and does not engage in rational or honest debate. Answer at the risk of wasting your time.
Elevation wouldn't prevent the rapid mixing of salt and fresh water, especially if the fresh water came from rain.
Were talking thousands of miles separating the oceans, osmosis happens but not that fast, the waters washed off the continents, etc....
Edited by AdminNosy, : troll warning

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Message 25 of 105 (385604)
02-16-2007 12:30 PM
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02-16-2007 12:27 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Are you seriously suggesting it only rained over the continents and that no osmosis occured? That for a whole fricken year that the salt content didn't reach a equilibrium?
This is borderline insane.

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Message 26 of 105 (385606)
02-16-2007 12:32 PM
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02-16-2007 12:30 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Wow. You actually are suggesting that it rained only over the continents.
I'm leaving others who can deal with delusionality to deal with you.

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Message 27 of 105 (385607)
02-16-2007 12:33 PM
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02-16-2007 12:30 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
I would suggest you are wasting your time - anyone who's willing to suggest such an thing is beyond rational argument.
It's illegal to smoke stuff that strong where I live.

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Message 28 of 105 (385610)
02-16-2007 12:37 PM
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02-16-2007 12:33 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
It would appear so. Wow. I've met my share of creationists but this guy takes the cake for insanity.

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Message 29 of 105 (385612)
02-16-2007 12:38 PM
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02-16-2007 12:32 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
This poster is a troll and does not engage in rational or honest debate. Answer at the risk of wasting your time.
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Wow. You actually are suggesting that it rained only over the continents.
No, but it only rained 40 days then it receeded continually. I like Osmosis but it needs to be in the near vicinity of the fresh water. You seem to believe the ocean water lifted up and was depositing over the continents, that not what said happened. It said it rained 40 days then it receeded continually for 10 months not that the oceans receeded over the continents, etc...
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Message 30 of 105 (385613)
02-16-2007 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by johnfolton
02-16-2007 12:18 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Charley writes:
It says it took a year before it was safe to travel on the earth, not that the water had not yet receded to a safe level.
Ok, so it took another year for the water to recede enough for things to walk on earth again.
That the waters decreased continually for them 10 months means that it didn't start becoming salty till after the freshwaters mixed with the oceans waters.
And how long do you think it took for the salt water to mix in with the fresh water? Because whatever your answer is, the animal would have to spend the rest of the time not drinking any water to stay alive.

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