General discussion of moderation procedures - Part οκτώ

Faith is/was a wall-banger. I don`t think I learnt a single thing from her 8000-9000 posts.Ray has some good arguments, but degenerates into spittle.John A. belongs in a rubber cell. With a copy of his Proposed Hypothesis.

A pretty bad no-no.Personally, as someone who normally doesn't like a lot of moderation, if someone did register twice for the purpose of pretending to be two different people, I'd have banned his ass right off the bat.

He is also registered as Evax and Silent-Predator and ANIMALGUY01. Little children often think adults are as clueless as they are.Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

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In Message 88 AdminBuz says: That might be important if it had ANYTHING to do with what is happening.Buz and NJ keep pointing to things that are not differences between Protestant and Roman Catholic Doctrine, but differences between some sub-sect of Protestantism and all of the rest of Christianity, Protestant AND Roman Catholic.The topic is differences between Protestant and Roman Catholic Doctrine. Unless you can show something that is common to ALL Protestant sects, it is NOT Protestant Doctrine. So far in EVERY example I have shown that there are Protestant Churches that follow the same doctrine as the Roman Catholics.Somebody needs to either help them read the OP or change the OP to be "differences between Fundy/Evangelical/Pentecostal Sects and the rest of Christianity, Protestant, Roman Catholic and Orthodox".

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Jar, since I'm the moderator who made the judgement, I'll wait and let other admins assess the matter and weigh in here on your problem. Thanks.

AdminBuz says: Dear AdminBuz;Thank you for your recent post. But what the hell does "there are differences in some of the sacraments as well as mass in many non Catholic churches" have to do with the topic?If you want the topic to be "there are differences in some of the sacraments as well as mass in many non Catholic churches" then I will agree. BUT that has NOTHING to do with Doctrine. Sure there are Fundy/Evangelical/Pentecostal Churches that differ. But they are NOT all that is Protestant and the differences between them and the fast body of Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian and Anglican Protestant Churches is as great or greater than the gulf between the vast body of Protestantism and the Roman Catholic Church.Edited by jar, : spalin

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Infant Baptism and Confirmation are common in Protestant churches. I was raised as a Congregationalist (now part of the United Reformed Church). I was Baptised as an infant, and I would have been expected to undergo Confirmation. The Church also had regular Communion servies which are the equivalent of the Catholic Mass. To say that these sacraments are a difference between Catholics and Protestants is a clear error.A church which rejected Infant Baptism and Baptised adults instead would have no need for Confirmation. That aside all the sacraments are common to Catholic and Protestant Churches. (And any Church that didn't have Mass or Communion could hardly be called Christian).Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

In the thread Message 88Yet in apparent contradiction Obviously jar is arguing that the difference between Catholic and mainstream Protestant churches are not as great as the difference between fundamentalist and all other Christian systems. I do not see how this is off-topic.If the debate brings up points that make some people uncomfortable, maybe it should. Anyway I feel that discomfort should not be used as a reason to stifle debate.I think AdminBuzsaw is trying to silence an opinion he does not like.

How did you determine that I was admonishing Jar for being off topic. Did I not make it clear that Jar was the one nitpicking about his opponents being off topic, when in fact they were on topic?

PaulK, please reread my admonition and the OP of the thread. Baptism is just one of the sacraments. Jar's nitpicking was not limited to just the Baptism debate. My admonition pertained to all the sacraments in general as the thread OP had it. Baptism, perse was not mentioned in the OP but inclusive under "sacramental" since it is one of the sacraments. There are a number of sacraments, including confirmation which was also discussed in the messages of the page involved.

Read the topic OP and go figure, Jar. Are you going to continue your nitpicky stuff here as well? If so, then I guess the best thing for us to do is wait for a forum director to weigh in here. I am trying to do my job in a fair and balanced manner here. I'm not suspending you, just admonishing so as to keep the peace in the thread and make it work for all parties of the debate. You're attacking nearly all the folks who are opposing your viewpoint in a nitpicky way and it makes the going very unpleasant for the folks who must deal with you. IMO, you can become a pain in the butt, heckling your opposition continually with your ever so active participation and so long as I'm moderator I'll not put up with undue provocation from you in the forums.

As others here have pointed out, you are totally misstating the topic. I am NOT nitpicking but rather simply pointing out that every issue you or NJ or Phat has raised is NOT related to differences in Doctrine between Protestants and Roman Catholic Doctrine but on an ignorance and misunderstanding of Protestant and Roman Catholic Doctrine.I have not attacked anyone, only their messages. If you consider it a pain in the butt when I point out where folk are simply wrong and provide absolute refutation of their position, I'm sorry. Stop posting absolutely false messages and off topic messages and I will stop pointing out that they are false and off topic.

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Jar, as the author of the Catholic/Protestant thread, I have read the arguments from all sides in this discussion and it is of my opinion that you have a valid point in defense of your position.I do have a problem with you attacking Buz for behaviors that you perceive him to have. Lets keep the arguments directed at the topics and not the participants.The topic has gone gangbusters and I myself have not had the time to post much---in my own topic(!) but I am not unhappy with how the arguments have played out.I will state publicly that you are a rather forceful debater, but aside from a possible perception of mild arrogance on your part, I see nothing wrong with your arguments.It takes a lot of homework to keep up with you, and I often do not have the time to compile replies to you. Anastasia is proving to be a good participant, and Nemesis is getting his workout, although I think that you will force him to be a better debate artist.All that I will ask is that you give Buzsaw some respect and don't attack his person.

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PaulK, please reread my admonition and the OP of the thread.

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I just did, and in context the purpose of it is to abuse administrative authority to back up the false claim that infant Baptism is a distinction between Catholics and Protestants when in fact most Protestant churches also practice infant Baptism.Sorry but Admin posts are not menat to support a particular position - and certainly not to back up claims which are obviously false.

Add Brakus-Arillion to the growing list of registrations this kid has.

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