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Author Topic:   The Pyramids vis a vis the Flood
Brian
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Message 16 of 61 (472217)
06-21-2008 1:42 AM
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06-20-2008 10:59 PM


If God was going to create people after the flood then why bother saving Noah and his family? Why bother saving all the animals?
God could simply have started everything again rather than going through the ludicrous Flood scenario we read in Genesis.

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Brian
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Message 17 of 61 (472218)
06-21-2008 1:45 AM
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06-20-2008 9:15 AM


The flood supporting arguement is that a god (Enil, Yaweh etc) did it with magic that did not leave a trace anywhere.
Well, since God was able to make a 6000 year old universe appear to be over 12 billion years old, cleaning up after the Flood shoud be quite easy for Him.

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Message 18 of 61 (472219)
06-21-2008 1:50 AM
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06-21-2008 1:45 AM


Cleaning up after the flood
Well, since God was able to make a 6000 year old universe appear to be over 12 billion years old, cleaning up after the Flood shoud be quite easy for Him.
Sure! He outsourced it.

Q. What's harder than getting a pregnant Brontosaurus into the ark?
A. Getting a Brontosaurus pregnant in the ark!
(Noah! Make them stop. I'm getting seasick!)

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Brian
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Message 19 of 61 (472220)
06-21-2008 1:52 AM
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06-21-2008 1:50 AM


Re: Cleaning up after the flood
I thought Noah only took teensy weensy little baby dinos aboard the Ark?

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Taz
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Message 20 of 61 (472228)
06-21-2008 3:24 AM
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06-21-2008 1:42 AM


Brian writes:
If God was going to create people after the flood then why bother saving Noah and his family? Why bother saving all the animals?
Have you ever formatted your hard drive? You know for a fact that you will reinstall certain systems and add new files to the new OS. Yet, you insist on saving whatever you can from the old OS.
That's just one possibility. Obviously, God could do whatever He wanted. The question is why not save Noah and his family? Why not save some animal?
God could simply have started everything again rather than going through the ludicrous Flood scenario we read in Genesis.
Yes, He COULD have.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Message 21 of 61 (472347)
06-21-2008 9:26 PM
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06-21-2008 3:24 AM


It's amazing the gyrations Flood believers will go through to explain the physical evidence against a global flood - but when confronted with evidence that can't be explained, they completely ignore it.
If you were to have your HD reformatted, you wouldn't use any of the O/S that was causing problems, you'd use the original (A&E) and try not to screw it up again - or, you'd develop a whole new operating system. Keeping parts is sure to cause problems again unless you were sure they were good. If things were so bad God should have
1 - stared all over again with a new GoE - this time without the tempting tree and maybe creating Sam and Julie instead.
2 - eliminated only the bad parts - making all the sinners disappear. That sure would have made the good people sit up and notice.

The Bible has to be true - no one could make all that up.

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Message 22 of 61 (472367)
06-21-2008 11:07 PM
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06-21-2008 9:26 PM


dbs944 writes:
If you were to have your HD reformatted, you wouldn't use any of the O/S that was causing problems, you'd use the original (A&E) and try not to screw it up again - or, you'd develop a whole new operating system. Keeping parts is sure to cause problems again unless you were sure they were good. If things were so bad God should have
1 - stared all over again with a new GoE - this time without the tempting tree and maybe creating Sam and Julie instead.
Don't tell me you've never reformatted and saved some backup files from the old OS.
2 - eliminated only the bad parts - making all the sinners disappear. That sure would have made the good people sit up and notice.
And I'm pretty sure if God had done what you proposed you'd be complaining why God didn't do it in more of a flashy way to get our attention.
Admit it. No matter how God had done it you'd be complaining anyway and suggest that you have a better way at doing it.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Message 23 of 61 (472369)
06-21-2008 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by AnswersInGenitals
06-20-2008 6:14 PM


Re: Simple hydrostatics is the answer.
Why do you ignore the obvious? The pyramids simply floated. Stones were much less dense in those days and only reached their current density with the accumulated crushing weight of all our sins. Next question.
I hope you are either being facetious or sarcastic. The above statement makes about as much sense as "the speed of light was different 6000 years ago" or "radioactive decay rates were different 6000 years ago."

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Taz
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Message 24 of 61 (472371)
06-21-2008 11:21 PM
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06-21-2008 11:16 PM


Re: Simple hydrostatics is the answer.
I assure you, AnswersInGenitals is not a creationist.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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bluegenes
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Message 25 of 61 (472375)
06-21-2008 11:38 PM
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06-20-2008 10:59 PM


Reason?!
Look, God created Adam and Eve from dirt. I don't see any reason why God couldn't have created other people after the flood.
That would be cheating. And since when does "reason" come into it, anyway?
Just like every history book, the bible couldn't have recorded EVERY event and EVERY person.
True. Unless the author was omniscient.

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bluegenes
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Message 26 of 61 (472377)
06-21-2008 11:42 PM
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06-21-2008 11:16 PM


Re: Simple hydrostatics is the answer.
bluescat48 writes:
I hope you are either being facetious or sarcastic.
I think he's just talking bollocks, as we say here in ye olde worlde. Ask him a question, and what do you get?

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Taz
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Message 27 of 61 (472378)
06-21-2008 11:49 PM
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06-21-2008 11:38 PM


Re: Reason?!
me writes:
Just like every history book, the bible couldn't have recorded EVERY event and EVERY person.
you writes:
True. Unless the author was omniscient.
I wasn't referring to the knowledge of the author. I was referring to the technical part of it. Just how would you suggest cramming everything about everything about every person that has ever lived in the entire span of human history into a book or series of books in a practical sense? Even today in the digital age such a detailed historic record would be unreasonable to ask for.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Message 28 of 61 (472380)
06-22-2008 12:03 AM


Great words
For anyone who enjoys words, there are things that the world can thank the creationist movement for, and this is one of them.
It's real!
Poetry!

  
bluegenes
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Message 29 of 61 (472381)
06-22-2008 12:05 AM
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06-21-2008 11:49 PM


Re: Reason?!
Taz writes:
I wasn't referring to the knowledge of the author. I was referring to the technical part of it. Just how would you suggest cramming everything about everything about every person that has ever lived in the entire span of human history into a book or series of books in a practical sense?
You have a point. I guess you'd have to be omnipotent.

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AnswersInGenitals
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Message 30 of 61 (472382)
06-22-2008 12:27 AM
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06-21-2008 11:42 PM


Re: Simple hydrostatics is the answer.
I think he's just talking bollocks, as we say here in ye olde worlde. Ask him a question, and what do you get?
First of all, this side of the world is just as old as your side (unless you know something that most geologist don't or haven't had the heart to tell us).
Secondly, please reread the all the posts in this thread up to this point (and perhaps other threads on this topic). You will notice that mine is the least ludicrous and illogical.

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