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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 95 of 302 (303000)
04-10-2006 5:53 PM


Lying
Members nwr and Randman have been suspended for allegedly calling someone a liar. These suspensions assume no one lies and shifts the guilt onto the reporter from the perpetrator.
Until these members posting privileges are restored I will boycott the Forum and thus, by doing so, I am protesting censorship on the Internet (of all places).
I have a source to identify all Darwinists as liars:
Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into A LIE, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
What lie is the verse talking about ?
appearance of design = blind and mindless process and not Designer.
The Designer says all of you Darwinists are liars.
What is the standard Darwinian explanation for anyone who does not agree with their lies ?
Answer: Dawkins: "stupid, insane, or wicked".
Ray
This message has been edited by Herepton, 04-10-2006 02:53 PM

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 110 of 302 (303247)
04-11-2006 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by AdminBuzsaw
04-10-2006 9:03 PM


Re: Lying
This verse doesn't call them liars perse.
You are a brazen liar.
How much more clearer can God be ? This is rhetorical.
But we know you are a Fundamentalist....synynoym for legalist....synonym for lawyer/rhetoric artist.
Look what a little worthless anonymous power does to a person ? Buzsaw will argue like atheist/Darwinists concerning the clear meaning of God's word in exchange for their approval/Admin status.
Luke 22:48
But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?
Hence christian Buzsaw ass kisses our enemies. Specifically, Buzsaw has made the Romans verse of no effect in order to support a misguided Forum rule.
We have a source to call Darwinists liars and the Judas kiss, craving the approval of Percy/Caesar wins out. "We have no king but Caesar" John 19:15
Buzsaw/Fundamentalists so perfectly typifies the Pharisees/established religious community in any era = the word written thousands of years ago perfectly corresponds with reality.
As Romans 1:25 corresponds with THE LIE of Darwinists today (design does not correspond with Designer) so does the actions/post of AdminBuzsaw correspond with the Judas kiss = God's word corresponds with reality and it was written thousands of years ago = this is why we call it the eternal word of God.
I am glad to read Arach/flaming TEist was lying concerning his support - that would have surely proven me wrong.
Concerning WJ: He is an atheist (as far as I know) and he agreed with the irrefutable principle: guilt shifted to messenger from perpetrator.
Dr. Scott: "My atheist professors at Stanford had more integrity in the tip of their little finger than every christian I have ever known." Hence WJ puts Buzsaw to shame and proves Dr. Scott correct.
Going to try and save a little face Buzsaw by suspending me ? Having a atheist/Darwinian Mod do it has no sting since I am a OEC. The Fundies of religion and science have teamed up.
As you know I have initiated boycott. Now you will undoubtedly dig in your heels. I am glad I didn't get your approval since you are a Fundamentalist, the doing so would have proven me wrong.
Ray Martinez, Protestant Evangelical Paulinist
This message has been edited by Herepton, 04-11-2006 11:33 AM

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 128 of 302 (303925)
04-13-2006 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Cold Foreign Object
04-10-2006 5:53 PM


Lying & Boycott
I am replying to the post where I initiated boycott. My boycott of this Forum shall remain until members Nwr and Randman are restored posting privileges.
It is fundamentally wrong to have in place a rule which protects liars and shields them from paying any consequence while shifting their guilt onto those who report the lie. The laws of this country are designed to punish liars and not protect them.
This is not a Creationist v. Evolutionist issue as is confirmed by the fact that Nwr and Randman represent both camps. However, this is a Darwinian controlled board and you guys have a rule that protects liars. This can only be interpreted as insulating yourselves from exposure. If this was a Creationist controlled board I would say the same thing - but its not.
We need a way to confront liars. If a Creationist lies then that person should be confronted, the same with an Evo. The rule needs to be changed OR a topic needs to be set up where a member can argue their case. There is NO PRECEDENT in civilized society that shields liars. EvC needs to do something.
There is though, even a greater issue. I can (and have) produced a source/Bible to expose certains liars. A person (from either side of the aisle) should be allowed to legitimately label and identify lie IF they have a source. The EvC rule voids the Bible.
My boycott will remain forever to protest the censorship of the Bible by an insignificant rule. The rule needs to be changed or amended. The subjective traitorous view of one Fundamentalist Admin seeking the approval of secular peers while grinding a personal hate axe will never be tolerated by myself. This person used classic weasel words to whitewash his support of the rule while shitting on Romans 1:25.
http://EvC Forum: General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel -->EvC Forum: General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel
In my rebuke of this person I predicted he would not come clean, but would "dig in his heels". Of course the prediction came true. He perpetrated and repeated the foundational issue: shifted his guilt onto the messenger (me).
http://EvC Forum: General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel -->EvC Forum: General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel
I am greatly comforted that a Fundamentalist disapproves of me; Darwinian disapproval is expected.
Many persons are aware that I am preparing a paper about Dr. Scott's refutation of Darwinism. It is taking longer than I expected but it is coming along. Dr. Scott has produced an invulnerable and impenetrable explanation and falsification of ToE. God has commissioned me (Dr. Scott's bulldog) to shove it in the face of the world. Darwinists are so used to refuting the moronic arguments of Fundies - we shall see how you do against the scholarship of a Stanford Ph.D.
May I remind:
Charles Darwin, common ancestry, macroevolution, Natural selection, human evolution, Theistic evolution, will all be CLEARLY refuted into oblivion. At the same time Paley's Argument from Design and the Creationist interpretation of scientific evidence will be invulnerably proven absolutely correct. The present state of society, that is, its enigmatic support of fallacious Darwinism will be explained and I will relish to see your rage - a rage that will make post 1996 Black Box rage look like a wimper.
I have always maintained that EvC is the best debate forum of the Net. Darwinian Site owner has championed free speech to his worldview rivals. I have been afforded over 2500 posts. Thank You.
My committment to publish this paper on the Net has not changed nor will it be thwarted. What will change is that I will not argue or defend the paper here - first, until the EvC rule that voids Romans 1:25 is changed. My committment to God and His word prevents me from supporting a Forum that censors His holy word based on the blood of Christ.
Ray Martinez, Protestant Evangelical Paulinist

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 137 of 302 (304044)
04-13-2006 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by NosyNed
04-13-2006 3:55 PM


Re: Taking longer
You seem to have misread my last post.
The EvC rule that protects liars voids a source/Bible to identify a liar.
My boycott remains forever as long as the Bible is censored by this Forum rule.
You are an Admin, why don't you address my post unlike the childish insult delivered by Omni ?
Then maybe I will consider your issue about an excerpt/draft ?
I really do appreciate your interest in my paper. It is the central focus of my life until completed.
Ray

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 153 of 302 (304229)
04-14-2006 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by AdminModulous
04-14-2006 4:25 AM


Re: My thoughts on how to deal with liars
Nobody could answer me point for point here:
http://EvC Forum: General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel -->EvC Forum: General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consequtive Consecution Sequel
We know this is because of the inability to refute.
I am shocked to read Brian's rant/loss of composure. I thought we were friends. I take no pleasure in it. From what he wrote it is obvious he intentionally said things daring me to call him a liar. I will leave you alone.
Randman accused me of lying yet I told no untruth. He said that I had never accepted x despite several posts where I explicitly stated that I accepted x. Does that make randman a liar? No - it makes him wrong. Instead of calling him a liar, I simply pointed out he was wrong.
This is about as objective and credible as a Judge deciding a case involving his relative.
You are also confused. Randman was suspended for allegedly calling you a liar. I suggest you do less drugs; the same will undoubtedly improve the look of your face.
On that note, and with my tongue in my cheek, you are a liar Ray. I can provide a source for it too, so it should be justifiable
Because you are an atheist/Darwinist this secures the fact that I am not as you say. Your approval would have proven me as such. We know your kind (Fundies of science have teamed up with the Fundies of religion) and both have condemned me = my rightness/Creationism confirmed correct.
Your entire post shows deep frustation caused by my irrefutable points in previous messages.
You cannot use a Bible passage, that accuses animal worshippers of changing the truth of God into a lie to call all people that accept evolution as an explanation for the diversity of life. Its not ever going to happen.
Common sense says if a person wants accurate information about the Bible do not consult an atheist/Darwinist.
You guys are animal worshippers = evolution says we descended from apes and so on and so forth ending in the mythical common ancestor. Any objective reading of Genesis knows it was written to say origins was not by common descent.
I have no ill will toward any atheist or Darwinist. Since I am a Creationist all your comments about me are entirely predictable as mine are towards you. The ill will that I do have is towards the cowardly Creationist lap dogs too bored in life to have the character to take a stand about the censorship of the Bible. You care more about having a place to post than with atheists who have shit on your Bible. The Bible claims to correspond with physical reality. The Pharisees are the type of EVERY established religious community in any era. Jesus said (the ultimate authority and source) they (the Pharisees) were of their father the devil (John 8:44). Imagine that....thinking you are worshipping God when in fact you are deceived by Satan and belong to him ?
If the typology is true then every established religious community in any era is exactly the same. The Fundamentalists are the established Protestant religious community today and their members are here, in this Forum, and by their silence, approving of the censorship of the Bible by our enemies, they prove, the typology is absolutely true corresponding with physical reality. The book of John was written before 70 AD.
Darwinists have "changed the truth of God" (that He is the Creator) "into a lie" that we originated from creatures "and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator." Romans 1:25 = perfect fit on Darwinists. My paper will prove it.
The error of all nonbelievers is that the word of God does not apply to them but some uncivilized savage in the past. The verse fits Darwinists to a tee. This fact is supported by your censorship of the Bible verse by not allowing it to be applied to you. By plainly admitting that you will not allow shows that you really think it does.
Imagine that...a Bible verse and its application censored on an Internet debate board....the truth obviously hurts.
Now I debut my new signature that would accompany all my posts if I was not boycotting this Forum.
Ray
Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into A LIE, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
All Darwinists are the liars for special pleading the appearance of design (what more can God do ?) to not correspond with Designer but a blind and mindless process of their own imagination and need.

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