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Message 71 of 352 (478331)
08-14-2008 11:27 AM

Reply to: Message 70 by Rahvin
08-14-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Cavediver or Plato's cavedweller?

If we assume that there is design just for the purposes of this debate, the Gdesignerod is either an idiot, cruel, or uncaring and working very hard to leave no trace of his intelligence for his cdesignreations to find.

My apology for the phenomenon of the designer looking like an idiot is your bolded section. I think that god doesn't want to be proven and wants us to believe in him on faith (although I'm not totally sure why yet). If he had designed us in a way that showed his design, then we wouldn't need to have faith in him anymore. To prevent us from "knowing" that we were designed, he did it in a way that leaves no trace. I can see how this makes him look like an idiot to some.

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Message 82 of 352 (478357)
08-14-2008 3:04 PM

Reply to: Message 78 by Agobot
08-14-2008 2:05 PM

Why would you call god a deity that has lied to you or used deception on you and your friends/loved ones(throwing out evidence here and there pointing to life coming about on itself, by itself)?

The assumption is that god wants us to believe in him through faith rather than know from evidence that he exists.

If that is what he wants, then he would simply be withholding evidence. That's different than lying and deceiving.

Why do we have to respect it instead of giving it the deserved "f*ck you".

You don't have to respect it.

For all the evidence we have, god would be not only an idiot, but a sadistic idiot, who kills millions of innocent children in his attempts at disguise.

Whatever dude

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Message 86 of 352 (478363)
08-14-2008 3:31 PM

Reply to: Message 85 by cavediver
08-14-2008 3:25 PM

Re: Unappreciative Blasphemy Thread

I'm sorry cavediver, but you exceeded that maximum allowed 5 smileys per post.

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Message 114 of 352 (478444)
08-15-2008 12:47 PM

Reply to: Message 111 by Agobot
08-15-2008 11:01 AM

How is spreading dinosaur bones and skeletons throughout the Earth considered "withholding evidence"?

Huh!?

What are you talking about? What do dinosaur bones have to do with the existence of god?

To me, that's deliberate deception.

If you're going to decide, a priori, that god is a deceiver, then its going to be pretty easy to see things as deception.

I don't care to argue with you about things that you have already decided can only be the way you see them.

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