Early Instances of Christian Elements: Borrowings, Anticipations or Satanic Mockery?

Judaism is false religion. It is based on the Talmud, not on the Old Testament. The New Testament interprets the Old Testament correctly. Even the Pharisees believed in a resurrection, however. So much for the notion there is no afterlife in Judaism. God Himself calls Himself the Savior throughout the Old Testament. And "He will save His people from their sins" is in the Old Testament. If Judaism misses this, too bad for Judaism. AAnd I AM EXTRA XTRA sorry sorry sorry but the New Testgament is quite quite clear. You are imposing a false Jewish interpretation on the scriptures that the New Testmaenet JEWS understood, as opposed to the ones who rejected their Messiah. Sorry sorry sorry and a half. You are the one sticking your fingers in your ears, and your arrogance in imposing the obtuse and unspiritual Jewish view on the Christian scriptures is simply offensive.You didn't give anything specific that has not been answered a hundred times. The Shulamite is not called a virgin in the Song of Songs. Almah is properly translated virgin, etc etc etc. What else is there to say.This message has been edited by Faith, 02-13-2006 06:59 PM

I suggest you take that up with the little Jewish boy whose birthday you celebrate in December.

Do you have some support for that or is this just your opinion? Do you have some support for that or is this just your opinion? Do you have some support for that or is this just your opinion?

No need to do that. He's the one who clearly said it's false religion. That's how I know.

Yeah, jar, my support is the authority of the New Testament writers, and Jesus Christ, God Himself. Can't do better than that for support, jar.This message has been edited by Faith, 02-13-2006 07:25 PM

Fine Faith. Chapter and verse so we can discuss your wild assertions.Where is it said that "Judaism is false religion"?Where is your support that "It [Judaism] is based on the Talmud, not on the Old Testament"?Where is your support that "The New Testament interprets the Old Testament correctly"?I'm sorry Faith but your posts are simply yet more examples of the Intolerance of Christianity. And no where do they address those things that Christianity has adopted, borrowed or co-opted from other religions.

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Everywhere he condemns and speaks woe to the Pharisees and the scribes, for they are Judaism then and now as well. Wherever Jesus condemns the Pharisees for following the traditions of men instead of God. Wherever it does interpret the Old Testament at all. Its writers were Jews who had grown up hearing the Old Testament. The New Testament is the word of God. And God is my support. My posts certainly do deny that Christianity has adopted anything whatever. And you bet Christianity is intolerant of evil and lies and pious frauds like you. I call on God to expose you as the fraud you are.

Chapter and verse Faith so we can discuss them. Right now you are only making generalized assertions. Furthermore, Pharisee and scribe is not synonymous with Juadaism. Yes, but when such things have been pointed out to you you simply try to handwave them away. You have provided no support for your position. Yeah, yeah, Faith. Perhaps you could begin by supporting some of your assertions.

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It is no more a false religion that Christianity. This shows a very deep misunderstanding about what the Talmud is. It is also showing a great deal of anti-semitism too.The Talmud is commentary about the laws given in the Torah. It looks at the laws that are given in the torah, and then talks about applying those laws in real life situations. It give opinions from a variety of different view points so the various positions about the law can be looked at. I beg your pardon, but the Jewish religion came first, and they are the ones to interpret what their scriptures say. The tanakh is not a
'prequel' to Jesus. The concept that the Jewish people have of the messiah is not the christian concept. And Jesus does not match the Jewish concept of the Jewish messiah. To say they 'Rejected' their messiah is just plain prejudice on your part. I certianly can't take you very seriously with your statements about Judaism, or the way the Jewish faith looks at their scriptures. I know that Christianity has used the New Testament to try to reinterpret the jewish scriptures, but it does so with out of context quotes, mistranslations, and with reading things INTO the scriptures that were never meant to be there.

NO, actually , he didn't.He said to follow the Laws.. Not ONE Wit of the law shall be changed until all is accomplished.Guess what.. all is not accomplished yet.Yes, the christians feel he came to fullfill the law.. but fullfill is not to change or abolish.

I notice you have not quoted chapter and verse of anything.I noticed you are unable to discuss the chapter and verse in context.Vague statements does not an arguement make.

Good grief, gal! Get a grip on yourself! You aren't the arbiter of all Christendom, y'know.

sSorry, I'm in a mood not to put up with any guff today. And everybody who knows the truth as I know it IS the arbiter of all Christianity. That's ALL of us. At EvC that includes brothers Iano, and Buzsaw and Randman too. I'm sure of them, I'm not awfully sure of anybody else though there may be a few.This message has been edited by Faith, 02-13-2006 11:10 PM

I'm not in a mood to put up with junk today either. This is the Comparative Religions forum and while "my beliefs are better than your beliefs" garbage may seem on topic, it isn't. The topic is "Early Instances of Christian Elements: Borrowings, Anticipations or Satanic Mockery."The judging of others needs to stop!You all know where to take any complaints.

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Well then, we're even since your unbelievable arrogance against the New Testament makes you an anti-Christian.The Talmud is claimed to have been given to Moses at Sinai along with the Torah, but there is no evidence in scripture of any such thing and it is the Talmud which Jesus condemned as the traditions of men the Jews put between themselves and God. The Talmud contains the obsessional additions to the law that Jesus said put a burden on the people they could not carry. Yes, that is what is claimed for it, but it also does what Jesus condemned it for. It removes people from the requirements of the law by interposing a bunch of nitpicky rules for observing them. Not if they MISinterpreted them, which they did, which is what Jesus taught they did, and severely condemned them for doing, and the whole New Testament teaches in general, including Paul and Peter. Jesus on the other hand, taught the Old Testament in truth. Judaism has been following a manmade false interpretation and not the Old Testament. That is correct, they certainly do not have that concept and they are wrong because it is clearly and obviously in their own scriptures. That is correct, he does not because they have misinterpreted their scriptures. It is what the New Testament teaches, and your denial of what the New Testament teaches is just plain prejudice on your part. The feeling is mutual. Yes that is your misinterpretation. I'm quite familiar with it. It's what I'm answering and have answered quite adequately on many threads at this forum.This message has been edited by Faith, 02-14-2006 02:35 AMThis message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 02-14-2006 07:47 AM