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This is very interesting Peg.You don't believe that Jesus was God in the flesh, God incarnate, as in God on Earth in the form of a human being?

No i dont. Its not a biblical teaching, the apostles never taught it and im sure you know that it developed centuries later.so why should I believe it? Do you believe it?

I don't believe in God so I don't believe it. There's actually very little in the New Testament that I do believe, but I find it interesting that you reject one of the basic beliefs of mainstream Christianity.I don't have a problem with it at all, maybe there is hope for you!

Thank you for the exchange nuggin.
Hope all is well ... I am quite familiar with the mystery religion of Babylon and I believe your 'evidence' may lead to an extremely valuable conclusion. Imho, the 'Hebrew prophet was imaginary' theory does seem to oversimplify things, but that does not somehow give me the right to slander your imagination.However, as previously stated, it is not your particular theory that is on the gallows anyhow; it is, rather, the method of presentation employed, coupled with seemingly dubious resourcing, that seems to detract heavily from what you are attempting to explain and I think it is unfortunate. Nevertheless, I commend you, as I think we have a duty to one another to critique, or 'circumsise' if you will, our desperate and wonderful imaginations. Perhaps not; but, one can hope for education ...After all, our audience consists of more than Peg. lol - in case you haven't noticed, you can't believe everything she tells you. I like to think we are all capable of contemplation and consideration, although I understand, and at times share, your frustration completely.As you have pointed out, many 'Christians' do not actually believe in Yeshua or his Authority; instead, they, by choice, cleave unto a book. It appears that this book is then interpreted by them in such a way that they may give themselves over to lies (ie. winds o' doctrine), in order that they may suppress the more blatant ones that stare them in the face (ie. religious forgeries). Now, obviously, when you take their lil' musty book away, they become uprooted and begin to wither like any ol' dead fig tree does. In the end, it appears that most verse quoters are simply babes, fairly content with relying on their sky daddy to color the judgement for them and it is sad really; they are, perhaps, bound to disappointment.The Way of yeshua HaMashiach is not rooted in books; it is rooted in lives.The way of Saint Paul is often rooted in books; may peace rest upon him. I don't reject your information nuggin ...Simply your conclusion.One Love

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I'm not here to mock or condemn what you believe ...
Tho my intentions are no less than to tickle your thinker.
Why trust what I say when you can learn for yourself?
Think for yourself.Mercy Trumps Judgement,
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Yes, do you understand that the canon reject 75% of the Gospels? Do you understand why?Do you understand the Teachings of Thomas and why his Gospel is unacceptable to the Church because of where it put the power?

Oh, I see. You misunderstood me. You do that a lot because you're always trying to read something into what I've written. You're wrong on both counts. Hell, in the part you quoted I even agreed that:

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It is as much mythology as the greek and roman myths or the egyptian myths or any other myths from the bronze age.

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and if you keep me in context, you can see that I'm arguing against this position:

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it is JUST a book of myths and legends

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So... yeah, you're way off.But this is pretty standard from you. I've come to expect it.

awww how sweet, we are complete opposites...I dont believe in the supposed 'authority of the church' or the 'apostolic succession' which is why I dont believe any church dogma introduced after the death of the Apostles.

Do I really need to go back and how you how many Christians supported invading Iraq? Behe is an exploitist and author. He's certainly not a scientist by any valid definition of science. Behe HIMSELF admitted ON THE STAND that his "standards" of science would include things like Astrology and Numerology - ie fortune telling.That ain't science. That's magic and con jobs. Physician...

which 75% are they?and the Thomas gospel is out of harmony with the others, so how can it be considered inspired? Also why was not not accepted in the early cannons?

Thank you for the exchange Rrhain.
Hope things are well with you ... No Peg, there was no point - lolThank you for your submission to Theology. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "wanting," specifically describing the section on the Sons o' God "dubious." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.One Love

no you dont, im well aware. yet he is a Molecular biochemist and was professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.his conclusions are contrary to mainstream scientists because he doesnt believe in evolution and so he's called a qwack. Thankyou for proving my point. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

Are you so blind that you can't see the error in your reasoning?Thomas doesn't agree with Mark, Mark doesn't agree with Luke, Luke doesn't agree with Mat... etc.When the Bible was assembled, books were out and out rejected. Books with stories about Jesus were tossed out despite the fact that references to things which happen in those books still exist in the Bible.Start here and keep watching for specifics on which books and what lines in the current Bible reference things...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EPOsTVjWlEAs for the teachings of Thomas, Thomas differs from the canon Gospels in a VERY IMPORTANT WAY.Canon Gospels = "The Kingdom of Heaven" is available to you if you do what we say.
Thomas = "The Kingdom of Heaven" is all around you if you just open your eyes to see it.You can't get people to do what you want and give you money if you tell them they already have everything they need.In order to control and con people you have to promise them something that they will get later, or scare them with the threat of something coming soon."Do as I say and give me money and you'll go to Heaven".
"Do as I say and give me money or when Jesus comes back, you'll be sorry".Those are the two concepts which drive the church and that is why those are the two final statements we hear from Creationists when they turn and flee the boards: "Well, at least I'm getting into Heaven and you aren't."It's all a giant con job

If the point you were trying to prove is that you are woefully uninformed, then yes, I have proven that.Behe is a quack because his "Intelligent Design" is unsubstantiated. He's offered no data, outlined no experiment (let alone performed one). He's merely pointed to a few things and said, in essence, "I'm too lazy to figure this out therefore it was magic."That's NOT science.Even still, Behe does NOT (let me type that again NOT) reject evolution. He accepts common descent, even of humans from chimps, he just feels that there is a magical wizard involved in the process.Where and how? He has no suggestions.

Yes you're right, that is a con job.If only people would separate the bible from the church. If they did, they would see a whole different religion.

Not that I think you need to be told this, but to be clear, humans did NOT evolve from chimps. We share a common ancestor.

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