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Message 241 of 245 (596780)
12-16-2010 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by subbie
12-16-2010 6:45 PM

Fox, the Xmas Warlords
As far as I've been able to make out, "these people" are mainly corporations who decided that a more inclusive holiday greeting would please their customers. Wal-Mart, I believe, was one of those .
The brouhaha came, naturally, mostly from Fox, beginning a few years ago. They portrayed this rare corporate courtesy as a War on Christmas (complete with War on Christmas graphic--pow!) by the politically over-correct. No one agitated for this change; there were no demonstrations, no atheists railing against the temerity of wishig them a Merry Christness--just corporations trying to be more inclusive by wishing folks a Happy Holiday instead of a Merry Christmas.
Beck, O'Reilly & Co. added fuel to the fire by reporting that Obama had escalated the "War on Christmas" by replacing traditional White House "Merry Christmas" cards with "Happy Holiday" cards. I think that lost steam when it turned out the Bush administration actually made that change.
It's just more aggressive conservative victimhood: the liberals have all the media, the secular world wages war against us godly, the atheists don't want to pay for creches on the town green...we get no respect.
Poor bastards.

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Message 242 of 245 (596783)
12-16-2010 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by Theodoric
12-16-2010 4:17 PM

Theodoric writes:
What is it about Christmas that so offends the happy holidays people? Why not Merry Christmas?Phyllis Chapman
Dear Ms Chapman,
I sincerely wish you a Merry Christmas. And if you go on a trip to visit relatives, then I wish you a miserable time for all of those holidays except Dec 25th.
I say this, because you have made it clear that you are offended when people wish you Happy Holidays, so I must assume that you want those days other than Dec 25th to be unhappy ones.
I'm laughing at the silliness of Ms. Chapman. I doubt that she expected that kind of response.
I am not at all offended by "Merry Christmas." If I use "Happy Holidays," that is to be more inclusive, as with including Jan 1 and the various other days that people take off from work during that week.
Yes, maybe political correctness has gone to far, what with the right wing crazies wanting to impose their insane version of political correctness on the rest of us.

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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Message 243 of 245 (596808)
12-17-2010 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by New Cat's Eye
12-16-2010 6:43 PM

I think its wrong to say that wishing someone a "Merry Christmas" is offensive and/or is pushing your religion on them.
I agree, but I also agree with the converse that that saying Happy holidays is not offensive either.

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Message 244 of 245 (596996)
12-18-2010 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by New Cat's Eye
12-16-2010 6:43 PM

Catholic Scientist writes:
I think its wrong to say that wishing someone a "Merry Christmas" is offensive and/or is pushing your religion on them.
Nobody thinks it's offensive to greet your friends.
It is, however, rude to greet only one of them.


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Message 245 of 245 (597665)
12-23-2010 6:20 AM

the true meaning ...
From Calamities of Nature: Archive
I hope everyone had a happy solestice and continue to enjoy the festival season.

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by our ability to understand
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