War on Christmas

Of course I am. That is why I am wondering about the counter to that. Which you seem to want to completely ignore.I see Jar asked the question, so how about addressing it.

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In a sense I agree. I will say Merry Christmas on the 24 & 25 of December, similarly I will say Happy Chanukah during the eight days of Chanukah, Happy New Year on December 31 & January 1 Happy St.Nicholas day on December6, Happy Winter Solstice on the 21-22 Devcember etc. Otherwise between Thanksgiving & My Birthday (9 Jan) I say Happy holidays.

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Yes.My complaint is about the people who want to stop "Merry Christmas" from being used because they think its offensive or pushing religion on others.

Well, assuming that there even are such people, the fact would be that it is pushing religion just as Happy Chanukah is pushing Judaism.Merry Christmas is a religious statement.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I don't have a problem with using "Happy Holidays", or anything really. I wouldn't even be offended by someone wishing me a "Happy Chanukah".I think its wrong to say that wishing someone a "Merry Christmas" is offensive and/or is pushing your religion on them.

Who are these people? Do you have any real world examples, because I've never heard of it happening.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

There are, in this thread... How is a greating pushing religion? Not necessarily. I have other posts in this thread about that if you want to discuss it. I gotta go, though.

Christmas like Easter and Pentecost are Christian Holy Days, religious in nature and specific to one particular religion.A greeting that only pertains to one specific religion is pushing religion, a specific religion.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Christmas is more than that. I celebrate Christmas and I'm not a Christian. And there are a great deal of trappings associated with Christmas in this country that have nothing to do with the Christian holy day.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

I'm not sure how that changes the reality of Christmas?And yes, I agree that the Holy Day has also been secularized, but that is not really relevant to the topic of some imagined war on Christmas.I'm still waiting for some evidence that there really are folk that believe as CS asserts when he said: "My complaint is about the people who want to stop "Merry Christmas" from being used because they think its offensive or pushing religion on others."I can see the argument that it is pushing religion; Christmas is only a Holy Day for one particular religion. That much is a fact.Whether or not it is offensive is an entirely different issue.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Well, I routinely say "Merry Christmas" this time of year, and I'm certainly not pushing religion. In particular, I'm not pushing a religion I disagree with. For me, it has a purely secular meaning. I guess if you want to argue that it's pushing religion just to say "Merry Christmas," I'm willing to listen to what you have to say. But I know for a fact that it's not always pushing religion.However, I certainly agree with your skepticism about the claim that there are people trying to ban use of the phrase.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Hi subbie, I object to calling it a christian holiday. Likely what you celebrate is yuletide, with the trees decorated, the family and feasts, and the sharing of gifts.These celebrations have nothing intrinsic to do with christianity, and christianity has nothing to do with the 25th of December to mark it out as a special date to that faith in any way.It's an ancient festival to celebrate the winter solstice.Enjoy.

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Perhaps you should tell that to the millions of Christians who've co-opted the day for themselves. I'm aware of what you say.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

I'm not convinced of that.If I go by the complaints that I occasionally hear, then it has gone too far. But if I go by my own experience, I'm led to wonder whether the complaints are gross exaggerations.

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Can you provide real world examples and examples in this thread?

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