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Message 231 of 245 (596751)
12-16-2010 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by New Cat's Eye
12-16-2010 6:39 PM


My complaint is about the people who want to stop "Merry Christmas" from being used because they think its offensive or pushing religion on others.
Who are these people? Do you have any real world examples, because I've never heard of it happening.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 234 of 245 (596757)
12-16-2010 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by jar
12-16-2010 6:51 PM


Re: Christmas is a Christian Holy day.
Christmas is more than that. I celebrate Christmas and I'm not a Christian. And there are a great deal of trappings associated with Christmas in this country that have nothing to do with the Christian holy day.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 236 of 245 (596761)
12-16-2010 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by jar
12-16-2010 7:17 PM


Re: Christmas is a Christian Holy day.
Well, I routinely say "Merry Christmas" this time of year, and I'm certainly not pushing religion. In particular, I'm not pushing a religion I disagree with. For me, it has a purely secular meaning. I guess if you want to argue that it's pushing religion just to say "Merry Christmas," I'm willing to listen to what you have to say. But I know for a fact that it's not always pushing religion.
However, I certainly agree with your skepticism about the claim that there are people trying to ban use of the phrase.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 238 of 245 (596774)
12-16-2010 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 237 by RAZD
12-16-2010 8:14 PM


Re: the 25th of December is NOT a Christian Holy day.
Perhaps you should tell that to the millions of Christians who've co-opted the day for themselves. I'm aware of what you say.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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