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DC85
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Message 16 of 25 (108925)
05-17-2004 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by berberry
05-17-2004 3:30 PM


Re: Southern Baptists and the Theology of Intolerance
Its not just Southern Baptists.(although I hate to say it... they do seem to have the biggest mouths) But its pretty much all Christens.
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Message 17 of 25 (108970)
05-18-2004 1:48 AM
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05-17-2004 4:52 PM


Do ministers, pastors, priests, etc., have to obtain state licenses before they can perform legally recognized marriages?
My wife's pastor (from Wisconsin) had to get a form from the county in which we were married in order to officiate the ceremony. I imagine he had to submit some evidence that he was an ordained Methodist minister, but I don't know what.
Our Minnesota marriage liscense wasn't official until it had been officiated and witnessed. So our pastor was very much imbued by the government with the ability to officiate a wedding.

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DC85
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Message 18 of 25 (109004)
05-18-2004 10:12 AM
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05-18-2004 1:48 AM


I know this is off topic. But Crash ... Where you married before you where atheist? Or was it just she and her family that wanted it?
My wife and I couldn't have a religious wedding even though that’s what our families wanted..
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Message 19 of 25 (109143)
05-18-2004 9:51 PM


Let the filthy be filthy still (kjv revelation 22:10)
It does seem that the verse in kjv deuteronomy 32:31 is quite evident in Canada, where likely heavy fines for saying something negative against this particular abomination, kinda interesting how it says some of these people are judges, perhaps its an attack on the churches right to preach of this particular abomination, and the bible does say their Rock is not the rock but are our enemies, and if they attack the freedom to preach this is an abomination, then they are attacking the right of free speech, I kinda see it as let the filthy be filthy still, kjv revelation 22:11, for the time is at hand kjv revelation 22:10, so I don't hate these people, if they want to be filthy still kjv Revelation 22:10 but they shouldn't get offended by those people that want to be righteous still, because the time is at hand, etc...
P.S. These few liberal judges have overstepped their bounds pitting their interpretations against the constitution forcing congress to address the issure of the sanctity of institution of marriage, for the childrens sake, and the protection of those that chose to live righteous, Holy lives, etc... kjv revelation 22:10, hopefully congress will protect the peoples right to freedom of expression[from these immoral judges], but likely the reason for legalizing unfruitful same sex marriage's [no offspring], to pit new laws that conflict with the second amendment, to further erode the constitution, where a few judges are trying to redefine marriage and attacking the peoples constitutional right to the freedom of religious expression, freedom of speech, etc...we all know its a filthy lifestyle, but if they want to be filthy let them be filthy still, but they shouldn't be allowed to teach junior its not filthy, nor should someone be fined as in canada for saying its a filthy lifestyle, but if they are filthy let them be filthy still, so that they that are righteous can be righteous still, holy still, etc...
kjv Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.
kjv Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

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crashfrog
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Message 20 of 25 (109149)
05-18-2004 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by DC85
05-18-2004 10:12 AM


Where you married before you where atheist? Or was it just she and her family that wanted it?
I'm a strong believer that marriage isn't just a personal covenant, it's a social one. So largely the tenor of our wedding - officiated by a pastor in our college's chapel - was because we knew that stuff was important to our families.
If it had been just us we were worrying about we would have gone to a justice of the peace and have done with it, or for that matter, we might not have even bothered in the first place.
But I had no objection to a religious ceremony, because the wedding isn't just a party for her and I - it's a social obligation. In return, we get social approval of our unity. And it wasn't like the Methodists are anything but low-key Protestants, anyway. There wasn't much religious stuff that I had to do.

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Message 21 of 25 (109266)
05-19-2004 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by crashfrog
05-18-2004 1:48 AM


Every country is different, and US law varies by state. Here's a good page where you can get the actual wording of the law for religious weddings. They don't address justices of the peace or any other authorized officials, unfortunately.
US law, by state: http://www.universalministries.com/genmarlaws.cfm
International law, by country: http://www.universalministries.com/genmarlaws2.cfm
For example, in Mississippi, where I currently reside:
"Any ordained minister of the gospel who is in good standing with his or her church may perform marriages. Ministers must send a certificate of marriage to the clerk who issued the marriage license within three months after the marriage. For questions see the clerk of the circuit court."

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Message 22 of 25 (109276)
05-19-2004 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by johnfolton
05-18-2004 9:51 PM


The Wild Shall Wild Remain
we all know its a filthy lifestyle
Don't speak for us all, whatever. I, for one, don't know anything of the kind.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
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Message 23 of 25 (109279)
05-19-2004 1:44 PM
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05-18-2004 9:51 PM


Re: Let the filthy be filthy still (kjv revelation 22:10)
Whatever, do you always write like that...sentences that neither has a beginnings or ends and keep going and going and going and going and going and going....and going and going and going and going...and going and going and going... and going and going and going...like that annoying bunny rabbit?

The Laminator

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DC85
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Message 24 of 25 (109292)
05-19-2004 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by johnfolton
05-18-2004 9:51 PM


Re: Let the filthy be filthy still (kjv revelation 22:10)
P.S. These few liberal judges have overstepped their bounds
someone must take a stand against unjust laws..
unfruitful same sex marriage's [no offspring],
are many straight couples who cannot have children...
to further erode the constitution
Bush seems like he is doing a good job of this
where a few judges are trying to redefine marriage and attacking the peoples constitutional right to the freedom of religious expression, freedom of speech, etc...
WOW! so the only expression that counts are the opinions of you immoral christens?(I can do it to).
we all know its a filthy lifestyle
I don't know it is... I guess I missed something... I see it not as a life style but a natural thing.
but if they are filthy let them be filthy
Ok so why do you care if they get married.. whose sin is it?
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still
this I must admit is the only part I don't agree with..
49 state are unjust! They need to change!
I think this topic needs to move to free for all
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Message 25 of 25 (109297)
05-19-2004 3:27 PM


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