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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: JM: Yes, those pesky details get in the way of an otherwise perfect hypothesis! Cheers Joe Meert
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joz Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe Meert:
[B]1)JM:Average age; however, it falls out of the integration; note the 1/tau term outside the integral will factor into the integration because the integration is done from 0 to tau. 2)JM: kappa=K/pc ....It has units of length^2/time, but the K (thermal conductivity) tells you its related to how far/fast heat diffuses. Does that help? It is not a constant (hint: this is a term that will cause TC fits when he starts to model).
[B][/QUOTE] 1)Sorry I`m still not getting how t is average age instead of tau.... Could you work through a brief example for me please? 2)Hmmm k[Kg.m/K.s3] so to end up with Kappa [m2/s] pc needs units [Kg/K.m.s2]... Ok i`ll bite Joe what is pc?
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: JM: Tau, is average age. Sorry, thought that was clear. During integration, the solution is 2/3t3/2 evaluated from 0 to tau. the final expression looks the same as I gave earlier except the integral is removed and the expression is multiplied by 1/tau (means the final tau is tau1/2 and the constant is 4/3. pc= is actually rho* c....Rho=density and has units of kg/m3. c is specific heat and has units of Joules/kg*C. Now, to anticipate your next question, joules are kg*m2/s2....cancelling all you get kappa = kg*m2 * m3 * sec2*oC / m * oC * sec3*kg*m2 if i've copied this correctly, you get kappa= m2/sec [This message has been edited by Joe Meert, 03-24-2002]
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: 1)Okey doke... If tau`s average age it makes sense it was the confusion over whether it (average age) was t or tau that got me.... 2)I was thinking p might be a rho but I figured it would be easier to ask..... Sorry about all the pesky details Joe....
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: No problem, now go plug them and test them! Cheers Joe Meert
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joz Inactive Member |
Ok so the units of alpav are [K-1]?
If so I think I understand the equation....
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: JM: Yes, the units are 1/temp Cheers Joe Meert
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
Meert, is there an area on the internet explaining the equation or must I ask you questions on variable expression (I don't think I need the calc or physics explained, I believe, though the [numerical] input is where I need assistance).
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: JM: Well, you told me you and I were at the same level of understanding. Is that assumption now incorrect? Cheers Joe Meert
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"JM: Well, you told me you and I were at the same level of understanding. Is that assumption now incorrect?"
--If I might quote myself from another thread: quote: ------------------
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: JM: What do you think is happening in the East African rift? The Rio grande rift? Actually, I don't know how you concluded that this is what I was talking about, but so be it. The East African rift has added some mass to the continents (Kilimanjaro and Mt. Kenya come to mind), so rifting can add mass to continents (contrary to your suggestion)....however that is an aside. Are you now saying that you cannot answer the questions I posed? I don't know of any internet site with these equations. The symbols are all defined along with their units in this thread as is the solution to the integral so you should have at it. Cheers Joe Meert
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"JM: What do you think is happening in the East African rift? The Rio grande rift?"
--Continents are diverging. Soon there will be another ocean in the East African Rift (the Red sea I belive), not a continent. "Actually, I don't know how you concluded that this is what I was talking about, but so be it."--Different posts such as these entertained my interpretation which was incorrect: quote: quote: "The East African rift has added some mass to the continents (Kilimanjaro and Mt. Kenya come to mind), so rifting can add mass to continents (contrary to your suggestion)....however that is an aside."--I am aware, my interpretation of your previous assertions was that it adds continental mass just as it adds mass to sea-floor, a different 'addition of mass' mechenism. "Are you now saying that you cannot answer the questions I posed?"--I didn't assert this, I asserted that I would need some questions answered on variable input, possibly if I could see an example of the equation. "I don't know of any internet site with these equations. The symbols are all defined along with their units in this thread as is the solution to the integral so you should have at it."--So you will not bite my head off if I am to ask questions? Some of them were answered by you and Joz. ------------------ [This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 03-25-2002]
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
quote: JM: Not at all, but that in itself leads to some issues. You have presented a half-cocked hypothesis on a subject (which you now admit) you don't understand fully. Most of us try to understand something before we present foolish ideas. Just about everything you've presented with regard to geology has been naively incorrect and inconsistent. That is because you don't know the topic well enough yet to make reasoned arguments. Work on answering the questions I posed here and explain why the oceans today are more than 50 meters deep when your hypothesis predicts that the oceans would only be ~50 meters deep. Cheers Joe Meert
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
pushing
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5680 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
Off to KU for the weekend. Will watch for a reply.
Cheers Joe Meert
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