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RAZD
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Message 2 of 191 (450892)
01-24-2008 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Admin
01-24-2008 2:50 PM


more suggestions (ducks)
We feel your pain ...
I'd like to keep things simpler as we move on.
I'm wondering how this will affect new posts (it's always about me you know ), as you just are not going to be able to moderate and read a pile of new posts and suggest modifications.
Perhaps a form that guides posters in the construction of a thread?
Note: all fields must be filled out:
TITLE:
. . . (limit 40 characters) . . . . . . .
Keep it simple and related to the purpose of the thread.
FORUM:
. . . (pull down menu) . . . . . . .
Choose the forum for the thread to appear in.
PURPOSE:
. . . (limit 200 characters) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
.
NOTE: this will be posted above the reply windows to remind everyone of the topic when posting. Example:
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the mechanisms of evolution that cause diversity within populations.
THE ARGUMENT:
. . . (limit 8000 characters) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
.
.
.
.
.
.
Hint: use a word processor or text writing program to compose your message. Check for spelling, grammar and paragraph before submitting.
I would be sweet if you had a moderator approval button that on approval would move the thread to the forum selected, and have several buttons for reasons for rejection.
You could also just close down new posts for a week or two.
This discussion board is focused on the creation/evolution debate. Other topics are fine in the appropriate forums, even gay issues I guess, but policing them will not be a moderator priority.
It's a matter of where you want to spend your energy.
You may want to look at having two basic areas, (1) Evolution and Creationism topics and (2) Social Issues. Perhaps trim back some of the forums that don't focus on the creation/evolution debate.
I look at "Social and Religious Issues" forums
  • Bible Study
  • Comparative Religions
  • Education and Creation/Evolution
  • Faith and Belief
  • Social Issues and Creation/Evolution
  • Theological Creationism and ID
    And only see three that could be moved up to a "Evolution, ID, Science and Creationism Forums" (monitored) as could
  • Creation/Evolution In The News
    while moving
  • The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy
    Down to "Social Issue Forums" -- which you could then leave unmonitored.
    You may even want to add some "Social Issue Forums"
  • Abortion
  • Stem Cell Research
  • Human Rights
  • Politics
  • Morality
    And just let anarchy rein on those threads. No moderation, no complaints.
    That should last you all weekend ...
    Enjoy.
    ps - I really like this site and think it is one of the best around.

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    RAZD
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    Message 9 of 191 (450921)
    01-24-2008 9:14 PM
    Reply to: Message 7 by Taz
    01-24-2008 9:08 PM


    Re: more suggestions (ducks)
    Yep. Change comes from within.
    and now you're suggesting a limit to the size of PNTs?
    I'm just incorporating the impression I have gotten from several recent PNT's that are not promoted. I can complain or comply, and one is realistic.
    I will now go edit my last PNT to see if it can be done ... oops - looks like it's not just suspensions ...
    (and now that it was reopened it has been edited and promoted)
    Enjoy.
    Edited by RAZD, : oops
    Edited by RAZD, : update

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    RAZD
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    Message 110 of 191 (451335)
    01-27-2008 10:02 AM
    Reply to: Message 99 by randman
    01-27-2008 1:04 AM


    Suggestions, considering that this is a debate site
    I was banned and then allowed to post on Showcase.
    Not too many wanted to debate on Showcase,
    I didn't post on showcase intentionally. I thought showcase was (1) rather insulting and (2) problematic with getting approvals.
    Welcome back. You've been missed ...
    Enjoy.

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    RAZD
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    Message 112 of 191 (451340)
    01-27-2008 10:52 AM
    Reply to: Message 107 by randman
    01-27-2008 4:34 AM


    Moderating from within
    What would you think about this:
    Minimum number of administrators, that concentrate on the site operation issues (topic promotion, banning spammers, suspending people that cannot play in the sandbox without throwing sand on everyone).
    Thread monitoring and moderation by the originator of the thread - to keep it on topic and bounce out people that are continually off-topic or abusive (with a report to admin to keep them honest). I monitor my threads, you monitor yours.
    This would work best with a "track changes" method that would keep previous versions of any edit, so that past versions could be viewed by anyone interested (possibly auto-linked to the edit message for example), or the way changes are detailed on wikipedia.
    Or it could be a very simple system - the thread monitor gets an additional button like the edit button that shows up for your own posts, and it (1) automatically hides the whole post (what you would likely want to do for off-topic or abusive posts), (2) has radio-buttons to pick to record a brief message for the reason ("off topic" "abusive" "other"), and (3) reports the operation to admin (who moderated, what thread, who was moderated, the reason).
    Less work for admin, less all one-sided moderation.
    You were a moderator (briefly), what do you think?
    Enjoy.

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    RAZD
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    Message 172 of 191 (455799)
    02-13-2008 8:21 PM
    Reply to: Message 168 by teen4christ
    02-13-2008 5:18 PM


    is change bad?
    I showed up right about the time people started getting booted out. I hardly had the time to get to know them.
    There are a lot of really old posts where I don't know the posters, and there are several solid posters that are so infrequent that their visits are relished when they do occur (Mammuthus for one)
    The board is going through a transition. Either we live with that fact or we don't.
    ... I'm sure in time people will stop voicing their dissatisfaction.
    Or satisfaction. Groups of people always have some that are upset by change.
    While I don't have the time to get on here very much, I do very much enjoy reading their posts while I'm on here.
    Perhaps one change is that it will be easier to come across good posts. Like many of yours for example.
    What is the purpose of this board?
    What is your purpose on this board?
    Enjoy.

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    RAZD
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    Message 173 of 191 (455800)
    02-13-2008 8:27 PM
    Reply to: Message 169 by TheWay
    02-13-2008 5:49 PM


    smug?
    and I for one am VERY happy they are gone.
    And I have never been happy with the banning of any member.
    They were impossible,
    Was it the posters or the information that was impossible to deal with?
    no, no, poor teen4christ, if they remained you would be teen4darwin.
    Really?
    Enjoy.

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