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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 16 of 93 (478752)
08-20-2008 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Rahvin
08-19-2008 11:52 PM


The horseshit you didn't even come up with yourself, but instead had to copy off of an insane televangelist?
Rahvin is lashing out.
The degree of slander (= anger) seen above is in direct ratio equal to the degree that the slander artist perceives the Stanford Ph.D. to threaten the veracity of evolution.
I eagerly anticipate you finishing your masterpiece of shame, Ray. I'm sure I won't be able to stop laughing for a straight month.
Common sense says that persons who think apes morphed into men and that animals have magical powers to change into a different animal should not laugh at anyone.
My paper will ruin the life of every evolutionist and there is nothing you can do about it.
Ray

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Message 17 of 93 (478754)
08-20-2008 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by bluegenes
08-20-2008 3:50 AM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
I look forward to it, Ray, I really do. There are very few "species immutabilists" left in the world, and the traitors at Answers in Genesis and elsewhere will no doubt have their lives ruined along with the evolutionists.
True.
But the Fundies are on your side----they accept microevolution like all secular Fundies (= the Atheists).
Have you included refutations of all the transitional fossils....
Yes, of course.
My refutation is original. I wish I could see your face when the argument sinks in.
Do you ever fear that the evidence for evolution might start coming in at a speed beyond your capabilities to update the "Invulnerable Refutation"?
There is no evidence that species evolve----none. The same are immutable: the effects of Divine power operating in reality.
Ray

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Message 18 of 93 (478755)
08-20-2008 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 1:43 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
Ray writes:
My refutation is original. I wish I could see your face when the argument sinks in.
I'll post a photo when the great day arrives, if I'm still alive.

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Message 19 of 93 (478757)
08-20-2008 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 1:36 PM


quote:
The horseshit you didn't even come up with yourself, but instead had to copy off of an insane televangelist?
Rahvin is lashing out.
Lashing out? Against what? I'm mocking the most amusing (and coincidentally least mentally stable) Creationist I've ever had the pleasure of conversing with.
The degree of slander (= anger) seen above is in direct ratio equal to the degree that the slander artist perceives the Stanford Ph.D. to threaten the veracity of evolution.
Anger = slander? Really? Then your televangelist must be slandering all day long!
Your idol has a PhD in theology. He has no knowledge of biology, or even science for that matter. He's an idiot, much like yourself.
quote:
I eagerly anticipate you finishing your masterpiece of shame, Ray. I'm sure I won't be able to stop laughing for a straight month.
Common sense says that persons who think apes morphed into men and that animals have magical powers to change into a different animal should not laugh at anyone.
Common sense says that anyone who thinks Evolution has to do with an ape morphing into a man doesn't know what evolution is enough to be able to refute it. But then, well all know that your mind doesn't require a connection to reality. It doesn't matter what the Theory of Evolution actually says or predicts - all that matters is the silly little strawman version kicking around in Ray's twisted mind.
The funniest part is that you don't even knock down your idiotic strawman - instead, you continue to use circular reasoning and plain stupidity to claim that "the widespread acceptance of Evolution is a punishment from God for the widespread acceptance of Evolution." It's like saying that a spanking is a punishment for being spanked. It takes a special, crazy brand of unhinged idiot to make statements like those, Ray.
My paper will ruin the life of every evolutionist and there is nothing you can do about it.
What, now you're Doctor Evil? I'd say Doctor Doom, but you're much funnier than Doom, and like Evil you seem to be a parody.
I told you, Ray, I'm not trying to discourage you from writing your paper. Quite to the contrary, I'd love to see it sooner than later, as I'm certain to gain many hours of entertainment from reading your bullshit, much like I do every time you resurface here.
Have fun playing Mad Genius, Ray. I'll have fun laughing at your delusions.

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Message 20 of 93 (478759)
08-20-2008 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 1:36 PM


Hi, Ray.
Cold Foreign Object writes:
Rahvin is lashing out.
Yep, he sure is. With your quick observational skills, I'm surprised we actually thought for a minute we could slip anything past you. No wonder you figured out how to beat our conspiracy.
And, I think I remember him promising to do exactly the same thing every time you start posting on a new thread. So, get used to it.
CFO writes:
The degree of slander (= anger) seen above is in direct ratio equal to the degree that the slander artist perceives the Stanford Ph.D. to threaten the veracity of evolution.
Blast!
I thought for sure it would take you at least twenty messages to mention the "Stanford Ph.D"! Now, thanks to you, I've lost the bet.
I'll pay up later, Rahvin.
CFO writes:
My paper will ruin the life of every evolutionist and there is nothing you can do about it.
Well, since I'm already living on the street with nothing but my laptop and one set of clothing, and people who see me scream, "Evil-ootionist!" and throw tomatoes and cauliflower at me... I don't see how your paper is going to make me any worse off.
Edited by Bluejay, : No reason given.

-Bluejay
Darwin loves you.

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Message 21 of 93 (478760)
08-20-2008 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 1:36 PM


Cold Foreign Object writes:
Common sense says that persons who think apes morphed into men and that animals have magical powers to change into a different animal should not laugh at anyone.
What does common sense say about people who have somehow arrived at the strange conclusion that evolution teaches that apes morphed into men and that animals have magical powers to change into a different animal?
--Percy

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Message 22 of 93 (478761)
08-20-2008 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Rahvin
08-20-2008 2:33 PM


Your idol has a PhD in theology. He has no knowledge of biology, or even science for that matter. He's an idiot, much like yourself.
But quieter than Ray, what with being dead and all....

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Message 23 of 93 (478764)
08-20-2008 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by cavediver
08-20-2008 4:06 AM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
Ah, you must be unfmailiar with Ray's line of argument. As alluded to by Rhavin, any piece of evidence FOR evolution is necessarily a piece of evidence for Ray's refutation - pure genius
You have it backwards: we know Darwin reinterpreted evidence that was originally offered in support of Creationism, inverting the explanation, offering it as evidence of transmutation. Creationist Richard Owen's homologies and analogies (believe it or not, Owen originated both concepts in science) and adaptationism, originated or popularized by William Paley----pure genius----right Cavediver?
Ray
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : add text.

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Message 24 of 93 (478765)
08-20-2008 4:44 PM
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08-20-2008 6:27 AM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
I think we might ask him to change that to "believer in British Natural Theology" to make it clear that he's not actually from this doomed and depraved Isle of Infidels.
That is correct: I accept the scientific position of BNT (1802-1859): species are immutable based on Paley's 1802 Watchmaker thesis.
Ray

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Message 25 of 93 (478766)
08-20-2008 4:56 PM
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08-20-2008 4:44 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
quote:
That is correct: I accept the scientific position of BNT (1802-1859): species are immutable based on Paley's 1802 Watchmaker thesis.
Well, now we can see what's taking so bloody long. Ray's got somewhere between 150-200 years of scientific learning to catch up on. Perhaps we oughta cut him a little slack.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 26 of 93 (478767)
08-20-2008 4:59 PM
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08-20-2008 9:02 AM


'Fraid not. It is the scientific method to which we're beholden, not evolution.
The cornerstone of science is observation. Evolution is an interpretation and explanation of scientific evidence governed by the restrictions of Materialism-Naturalism which predetermine the interpretations, explanations and more importantly: the conclusions. Of course these interpretations and explanations are false on their face----pro-Atheism nonsense.
Ray

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Message 27 of 93 (478768)
08-20-2008 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 4:44 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
species are immutable based on Paley's 1802 Watchmaker thesis.
But not, heaven forbid, on observation or any such Demonic Atheistic horseshit....
You are a piece of work, Ray.
Run down to La Brea and say hi to the tarred dinosaurs for me.

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Message 28 of 93 (478769)
08-20-2008 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 4:59 PM


The cornerstone of science is observation. Evolution is an interpretation and explanation of scientific evidence governed by the restrictions of Materialism-Naturalism which predetermine the interpretations, explanations and more importantly: the conclusions. Of course these interpretations and explanations are false on their face----pro-Atheism nonsense.
Evolution is governed through observation the same as any other science. As for Atheistic nonsense, I'd rather have the "Atheistic nonsense" than the religious nonsense. At least there is some evidence of evolution where there is none for creation.

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Message 29 of 93 (478770)
08-20-2008 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by bluegenes
08-20-2008 1:59 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
Ray writes:
My refutation is original. I wish I could see your face when the argument sinks in.
Bluegenes writes:
I'll post a photo when the great day arrives,....
Actually I can show you a picture of what your face will look like:
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The above picture of mafia gangster Lefty Guns Ruggiero is a famous photo published in the Donnie Brasco books. What makes this particular photo SO special?
According to the caption beneath the image, in the book, it is a photo taken by a secret FBI undercover team minutes after Ruggiero was informed that his best friend and "partner" of many years in mafia crimes was really undercover agent Joseph Pistone. Of course until this very moment Ruggiero had no idea that Brasco was an FBI agent.
Take a good look at Ruggiero's face. This is what YOUR face is going to look like after I publish.
Ray

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Message 30 of 93 (478771)
08-20-2008 5:30 PM
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08-20-2008 5:19 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
Take a good look at Ruggiero's face. This is what YOUR face is going to look like after I publish.
Hardly anything to worry about - I look worse than that every morning

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