Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,913 Year: 4,170/9,624 Month: 1,041/974 Week: 368/286 Day: 11/13 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Fundamentalists (of all stripes) at it again (Re: Textbook Wars: Religion in History)
SuperNintendo Chalmers
Member (Idle past 5864 days)
Posts: 772
From: Bartlett, IL, USA
Joined: 12-27-2005


Message 39 of 194 (281890)
01-27-2006 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by randman
01-26-2006 11:41 PM


Re: multi-culturalism
It's not fundies causing this. It's multi-culturalism, something you completely ignore.
Partially... I would say the state's lax standards are a result of a reaction to multi-culturalism, however I don't think multiculturalism is supposed to be about re-writing history. But I guess on the state's part I can see a reaction to multi-culturalism.
Now, the groups complaining all sound like fundamentalist/ultra-nationalist groups. They want to lie and re-write history to support their own warped version of history.
This message has been edited by Mini_Ditka, 01-27-2006 12:23 AM

This message is a reply to:
 Message 31 by randman, posted 01-26-2006 11:41 PM randman has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 44 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 12:32 AM SuperNintendo Chalmers has replied

  
SuperNintendo Chalmers
Member (Idle past 5864 days)
Posts: 772
From: Bartlett, IL, USA
Joined: 12-27-2005


Message 50 of 194 (281903)
01-27-2006 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by randman
01-27-2006 12:32 AM


Re: multi-culturalism
But that's just because religion and culture are mixed together. The Jewish, Hindu and Islamic groups are catered to because they represent minority cultures in this nation, and the idea is we cannot be fair to their stance since we are from a different culture, and so we should listen to their complaints and respect their wishes. It's not about fundamentalism.
You should read the article. There were members from each group on both sides of the issue. It seemed that fundamentalist and/or ultra-nationalist types were the ones wanting to revise history. There were others of those groups who didn't want to revise history.
NOW, I would agree that California's reaction was in part due to the "don't offend anyone" culture that I can't stand.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 44 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 12:32 AM randman has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 52 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 12:50 AM SuperNintendo Chalmers has replied

  
SuperNintendo Chalmers
Member (Idle past 5864 days)
Posts: 772
From: Bartlett, IL, USA
Joined: 12-27-2005


Message 55 of 194 (281908)
01-27-2006 12:57 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by randman
01-27-2006 12:50 AM


Re: multi-culturalism
Did you read the article at all?
They honestly just sounded like a bunch of nationalist (I would say more than fundamentalist) types trying to take advantage of California's refusal to "insult" anyone.
In any case, I don't care who is behind this... left/right/up/down it's wrong and dishonest.
It seems like one of those unholy alliances combining the negatives of both the left and the right to me.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 52 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 12:50 AM randman has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 57 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 1:00 AM SuperNintendo Chalmers has replied

  
SuperNintendo Chalmers
Member (Idle past 5864 days)
Posts: 772
From: Bartlett, IL, USA
Joined: 12-27-2005


Message 59 of 194 (281912)
01-27-2006 1:04 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by randman
01-27-2006 1:00 AM


Re: multi-culturalism
Nationalism and fundamentalism are not the same thing. In fact, there are fundamentalists that are not nationalist at all.
No kidding, who ever said they were????
Sorry if I was unclear. One could be neither, one or the other or both...
I any case some of the groups sounded like nationalists... some sounded like fundies, some sounded like weasels!
Like I said, the important thing is that it is wrong, no matter who is behind it.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 57 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 1:00 AM randman has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 61 by randman, posted 01-27-2006 1:08 AM SuperNintendo Chalmers has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024