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Author | Topic: Dino "Mummy" (not quite) sheds new light on skin | |||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
While not really a mummy, the sample does have mineralized skin over several section of the body. This may help give us clues about how the creature moved, more on what they looked like, even some hints about its environment. The hydrosaur was discovered in North Dakota.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Cool.
But every silver lining has a cloud. We should have a sweepstake on how long it'll be before some creationist makes a Young-Earth style mess of this. As you note, it's not really a mummy, so they've got something to get wrong right there.
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reiverix Member (Idle past 5818 days) Posts: 80 From: Central Ohio Joined: |
Preliminary studies are revealing a surprising side to these reptiles, suggesting that Dakota”even though roughly 35 feet (12 meters) long and weighing some 35 tons”was no slowpoke.
Is 35 tons a typo? Seems a bit weighty for a 35ft hadrosaur.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Maybe a little. A Right Whale can grow to about 60 feet long but can weigh in at around 100 tons. Brody's run about 45 feet long and weigh in at around 25 to 30 tons. We will need to see if that gets revised.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4189 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
But every silver lining has a cloud. We should have a sweepstake on how long it'll be before some creationist makes a Young-Earth style mess of this. As you note, it's not really a mummy, so they've got something to get wrong right there. I would say within 24 hours
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
So is that the daddy of all mummies?
quote: This shows that the mineralized soft tissue of Sue was no aberration either. About the same age. Thanks. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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JB1740 Member (Idle past 5944 days) Posts: 132 From: Washington, DC, US Joined: |
Is 35 tons a typo? Seems a bit weighty for a 35ft hadrosaur. I'm not sure if it's a typo, but I suspect it's bunk. Most of the specimen remains unprepared at this time. I'm pretty sure they haven't isolated the femur, so good luck on the mass estimate. It's possible they have a solid mass estimate certainly, but I'm skeptical.
This shows that the mineralized soft tissue of Sue was no aberration either. About the same age. Was there soft tissue preserved in Sue (Field Museum PR 2081)? I don't recall that. I know there has been some soft tissue on a Museum of the Rockies specimen. I cannot put my hand on my copy of the "Sue" monograph, but I don't remember anything about soft tissue in it. Could be, though (I wasn't ever reading that thing looking specifically for soft tissue stuff). Either way, it's not an aberration. The MOR T. rex specimen described in 2005 was from the Hell Creek. Lots of "pieces" of fossilized skin have been found in the Hell Creek and Lance formations and most of the dinosaurs classically regarded as "mummies" come from the Lance/Hell Creek sequences. Preservation of this kind is rare, but not miraculous.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3927 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
what's a brody's?
also, note. whales are aided by bouyant forces. lets talk about some length and weight ratios of land animals intead. cause 1 ton per foot weight sounds like something that can't walk. albeit length and body size are not necessarily equivalent.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A fumble finger. Bryde's.
Sorry but fat fingers strike again. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3927 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
ah, another whale. see the above note.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sure. I have no argument there. As I said above, lets wait and see if it gets revised.
But we have few 35 foot long critters these days. If we take something like an elephant, this sucker would be the size of something more than four to six elephants and likely somewhat taller as well. An elephant can weight 4 tons. So something in the 16 - 24 ton range may not be out of line. But we will learn more as the sample is studied. Edited by jar, : add elefants Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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reiverix Member (Idle past 5818 days) Posts: 80 From: Central Ohio Joined: |
The reason I brought up the weight issue is because I just happened to be reading up on Sue the T Rex at the time.
Sue's Vital Statistics Length: 42 feet (12.8 meters)Estimated live weight: 7 tons (6.4 metric tons)
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sure. Reasonable. We are dealing with herbivore versus carnivore and as pointed out above, we are early in the process of examining the sample.
Personally, I wish the folk writing articles stuck with what they really know, but then I didn't write the article. Who knows, maybe what the author heard was the folk talking about the weight of the sample itself. Maybe even including the plaster cast. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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JB1740 Member (Idle past 5944 days) Posts: 132 From: Washington, DC, US Joined: |
Personally, I wish the folk writing articles stuck with what they really know, but then I didn't write the article. The actual scientific paper hasn't been published yet. This is all based on a press release for a TV show. Grain 'o salt, folks...
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Grain 'o salt, folks... Exactly, but speaking of salt ... Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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