Question about this so called World Wide Flood.

If we really get TC back to this thread, let me note a couple of things that need to be addressed:
- All that water was seawater, or at least seawater with fresh water floating on top, undisturbed and unmixed by those big "flood surges" every few days.
- Soil irrigated for a few years with even mildly brackish water will not grow most crop plants - it accumulates too much salt.
- Coconuts, mangroves, and saltgrass will tolerate seawater, but are not mentioned in Genesis. Grapes won't tolerate seawater. How long after this flood was it that Noah got drunk?
- Think of our invertebrate friends in the sea: only a very few will survive, say, a 20% dilution of seawater with fresh. So while we're keeping the saltwater off our crops, let's keep the rainwater off our reefs.

Over 95% of the water on earth now is in the oceans, with nearly all the rest in icecaps. So even if all the present water were mixed together, it would be nearly as salty as standard seawater. If Noah & Co. had enough fresh water around to make any difference, either 1) the seawater then would have been much saltier than now or 2) some mechanism would have to exist to zap-poof that water away at the end of the Flood. Either seems a pretty big strain."after all us creationists don't have any brains and are ignorant - that much I've found out from reading through this forum."
Please don't do that. You have a brain, or you probably wouldn't be here. If you are ignorant, that can be a temporary condition. :-)

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Originally posted by Chara:
Now another question ... supposing (cause I know that this is a hotly debated topic and I don't even know where I stand on it) the hypothesis of an existing canopy of water over the earth collapsed during the flood, would that have necessarily been salt water? and would that have an effect on the salinity (sp?) of the water? Remember: emphasis on supposing

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I don't see why a "vapor canopy" wouldn't be fresh, but then I have never seen any plausible explanation as to how one could exist at all. If you had a solid, dome-shaped "firmament," yeah, you might be able to keep some water on top of it, but our moon visits and other space probes would have encountered more problems than they did. And if you did have a huge source of fresh water, you would have killed all the corals and a majority of other sea life, and you still have to make that water go somewhere when the Flood subsides.

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There is no suggestion that the twig came from a live tree,
is there?

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If you take the translation to mean an olive branch, with leaves so that it is distinguishable from driftwood, I would think a live tree is called for. A year under seawater would make leaves look pretty funky.

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The biblical account of the ark was for simple people by simple people

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Indeed. That's why it has all the marks of fable.

Hi, Brianna! How many species of animal do you think there are at present? How many when this ark was built? You can limit your count to those that have nostrils, if you think that's the only sort that Noah needed to shelter.
Quite a few predators will only eat live prey: bats, snakes.... How were they fed?
What does saturation in seawater do the ability of soil to support plant life, particularly crops like barley and wheat? Or olive trees?How did all those marsupials get to Australia after the flood, with no placental mammals getting mixed in? Did the blind "marsupial moles" (the Notoryctidae) burrow all the way?Where did Noah find enough eucalyptus leaves to feed the koalas, and enough bamboo to feed the giant pandas, out in Mesopotamia somewhere?And welcome to C vs E!

Chapter & verse? And how, exactly, did those antediluvian snakes and ticks and lions and leeches chew their food? Where did all this fresh water disappear to? How did it avoid killing all those forms of sealife that must have seawater to live? Allowing more time for marsupials to get mixed up with placentals on their way to Oz? This reply doesn't even address the question: Why koalas and bilbies in Australia and nowhere else? Why no cats or rabbits in Australia until Europeans arrived? If this "canopy" held enough water to fill even half of our present seas, would you care to hear an estimate of what the atmospheric pressure would have been? Would you be interested in knowing what the percentage of oxygen was? Would you like to see a vapor-pressure chart to indicate the temperatures required to keep that water as vapor?