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riVeRraT
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Message 166 of 195 (234035)
08-17-2005 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:31 AM


Re: ID
Theology, duh!

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Tal
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Message 167 of 195 (234036)
08-17-2005 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by Parasomnium
08-17-2005 10:29 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Which Video?
I'll let you know.
I was in this OSI Ambush

'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton

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Jazzns
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From: A Better America
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Message 168 of 195 (234039)
08-17-2005 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by riVeRraT
08-17-2005 10:31 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
I am talking about the glib you just offered as some kind of meaninful conversation. paisano had a good point and your response was nothing more than a snide chance to assert your religious position.
If you don't have anything meaningful to add to the discussion then why are you here? Just to be disruptive and take pot shots when you feel like it?

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Tal
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Message 169 of 195 (234042)
08-17-2005 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:26 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Wow. Love of Christ in action.
Yes, and that action is what has made and kept you free.

'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton

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Jazzns
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Message 170 of 195 (234045)
08-17-2005 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by riVeRraT
08-17-2005 10:33 AM


Re: ID
Being that teachers already don't have enough time to teach the other subjects I listed in order to reach the asinine standards set by NCLB which subject would you like to have displaced in order to teach theology?

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riVeRraT
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Message 171 of 195 (234046)
08-17-2005 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:34 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
That's your opinion, if you feel my 2 cents is worthless, and I am proud to say you are intitled to it. But to publicly display your judgement of my opinion, borders on the insulting, and would never yeild anything good from it, so why bother?
Surely you are more mature than that?
BTW, it is so fummy that you think I designed that picture youthough was a sig. If you only knew what it was.

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Jazzns
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Message 172 of 195 (234049)
08-17-2005 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by Tal
08-17-2005 10:37 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Bullshit. If you think you would be quicker to jump to defend this nation than I just because you volunteered to go out into the desert and kill dark people under the guise of democracy (or was that WMDs or was that and evil dictator...I forget) then you are sorely mistaken.
You don't even know me so don't pretend to claim you know what keeps me free. You are not automatically more American because you wear fatigues, carry a gun, and have the word "Private" as a prefix.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 173 of 195 (234050)
08-17-2005 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:37 AM


Re: ID
Being that teachers already don't have enough time to teach the other subjects I listed in order to reach the asinine standards set by NCLB which subject would you like to have displaced in order to teach theology?
I cannot give an unbiased opinion on that, because I feel getting saved is the most important thing for anyone. Just like I wish you were saved, out of love. So I don't know. All I know is that it deserves a fair chance, just like any other subject. Maybe it could be part of history, it doesn't take but one day to preach the true gospel of christ, by a qualified person, and could be taught in history, since we teach about greek mytholgy in there. Just a thought.

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Jazzns
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Message 174 of 195 (234055)
08-17-2005 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by riVeRraT
08-17-2005 10:39 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
What are you talking about? That post about the sig was to Tal. He changes is sigs more often then he makes posts more than 1 sentence.
Look maybe I went kinda of postal with that first post but seriously. WHy did you post something like that in response to a legitimate point that paisano was making? HOw did you think that a glib response like that was going to further the discussion or promote thought to your side in any way?

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Jazzns
Member (Idle past 3911 days)
Posts: 2657
From: A Better America
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Message 175 of 195 (234056)
08-17-2005 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by riVeRraT
08-17-2005 10:42 AM


Re: ID
I was baptized in 1997 and have been a follower every day since then. Just because I am calling your out on your BS does not mean I am anti-Christian. I just feel that you sir were being unnecessarily glib while all this time holding this moral high ground.
I often disagree with most of what paisano says but he brings actual discussion to the table. ALl you brought with that post was a disruptive aside.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 176 of 195 (234071)
08-17-2005 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:44 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Oops my bad about the sig. I guess we were posting too quick there back and forth, and I got confused.
Anyway, telling us that we will be sitting targets because of teaching a theory in class, is just an opinion, and I am entitled to my counter opinion, even if you don't agree. Thats America.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 177 of 195 (234076)
08-17-2005 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:48 AM


Re: ID
I never said you weren't a follower, that is between you and God.
This whole topic was based on teaching ID, which relates to God, so I think it's all relative, and I did not say anything out of context from the topic.
It's the coffee house forum, we should be able to be free in here to say what we want.

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Tal
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Posts: 1140
From: Fort Bragg, NC
Joined: 12-29-2004


Message 178 of 195 (234078)
08-17-2005 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:41 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Ok, I don't want to upset adminjar.
Bullshit. If you think you would be quicker to jump to defend this nation than I just because you volunteered to go out into the desert and kill dark people under the guise of democracy (or was that WMDs or was that and evil dictator...I forget) then you are sorely mistaken.
Ignorance at its finest.
You don't even know me so don't pretend to claim you know what keeps me free. You are not automatically more American because you wear fatigues, carry a gun, and have the word "Private" as a prefix.
I know extactly what keeps you free, but I never claimed to be more American for any reason. And sorry, I have the word "Sergeant" as a prefix.
This message has been edited by AdminJar, 08-17-2005 11:26 AM
This message has been edited by Tal, 08-17-2005 01:03 PM

'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton

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Jazzns
Member (Idle past 3911 days)
Posts: 2657
From: A Better America
Joined: 07-23-2004


Message 179 of 195 (234081)
08-17-2005 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by riVeRraT
08-17-2005 11:49 AM


Re: ID
You certainly made it seem like you thought I was not a follower.
riVeRraT previously writes:
Just like I wish you were saved, out of love.
Look whatever. I didn't mean for all this to turn into a bunch of side topics. All I wanted to do was call you out on what I saw was an unproductive reply not indicative of your previous self imposed moral high ground.

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Tal
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Message 180 of 195 (234108)
08-17-2005 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Tal
08-17-2005 11:55 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
That was a response to Jazz's OFF TOPIC MESSAGE.
But I don't see you editing his posts.
Why not?
This message has been edited by Tal, 08-17-2005 01:02 PM

'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton

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