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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Now consider that the purpose is not to make Franken look bad, but it is aired now to distract attention from Roy Moore sexual predator Not going to happen to me at least. But what difference do I make? I don't vote in Alabama. By now of course, we know that there is another, more recent, allegation against Al Franken. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Not going to happen to me at least. But what difference do I make? I don't vote in Alabama. But you do vote in America, and winning a senate seat from the republicans would (a) knock Thrump down another notch and (b) help prevent more republican disastrous bills and judge appointments from passing. You can help by contributing to Doug Jones Go to Doug Jones for Senateand Contribute I have a weekly donation going to him, because Roy Moore should be in jail, not the senate. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : stby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
But you do vote in America, and winning a senate seat from the republicans would (a) knock Thrump down another notch and (b) help prevent more republican disastrous bills and judge appointments from passing. Yes, I do care about the make-up of the Senate. What I am suggesting with my question is that a conspiracy regarding Al Franken is not going to have much effect on my opposition to Roy Moore. At best I will want to be rid of both of them. My opposition to Roy Moore won't stop even if he is elected. It is not prefaced on whether or not Franken is guilty or innocent. Past experience has shown that powerful lefties are no better at keeping their willies in their pants, and their hands off of some pretty girl's boobs than are their Republican counterparts. And today's climate is such that women are empowered to do speak out about that regardless of the whether the pervert is a leftie or a rightie. That's how it should be. O'Reilly is gone from Fox. We celebrated. Charlie Rose was fired today by CBS. Al Franken is under attack, and I doubt that he will be the last one. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Well this just got a little more interesting ...
The image on the left is obviously photoshopped (where did that green patch come from on the wall) ... but why do that when you have the one on the right? Well the word is that it was photoshopped as well:
quote: and in the comments
quote: Why? Because Franken's hand was on her shoulder, and they had to hide the fingers ... So Franken is being "swiftboated" and maligned with false information, in an attempt to deflect news from Roy Moore child molester, pedophile and statutory rapist, and to provide false equivalence to gaslight people, especially voters in Alabama, into thinking it's ok to condone\vote for despicable Moore.
quote: Sadly this tactic will likely win, because republicans have shown time and again they don't care squat about morality if it interferes with the GOP agenda. They just talk about it to fool the gullible. Edited by Admin, : Change image width.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Because Franken's hand was on her shoulder, and they had to hide the fingers ... Devils advocate mode: Of course, this might be a photoshopping by some left winger, to make it look like some right winger had photoshopped the image. The image was photoshopped to remove the fingers that were not actually in the original picture. It's part of the liberal coverup. Or something like that.
Franken is being "swiftboated" and maligned with false information, in an attempt to deflect news from Roy Moore child molester, pedophile and statutory rapist, and to provide false equivalence to gaslight people, especially voters in Alabama, into thinking it's ok to condone\vote for despicable Moore. Or to cripple Franken's efforts to oppose the right wing agenda, such as weakening net neutrality. Not to mention, Fox News sure must still be grumpy about that "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" book. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Franken admits thrusting his tongue into Tweeden's mouth during a rehearsed kiss I didn't recall there being any such admission, and re-reading a couple of stories about it, I find no such admission. Al Franken apologizes after accusation he kissed and groped TV news anchor | US politics | The GuardianAl Franken Issues Apology After Accusation of Forcible Kissing and Groping - The New York Times Moose Added by edit, from the nytimes link:
quote: That is not an admission. Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined:
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Just a bit of information about the first photo.
The EXIF data in the photo shows it was taken on the 21st Dec, at 5.19pm. Not the date Tweeden claims it was taken, on the 23rd during a 36 hour flight home. It also carries a date when it was last modified. That date is the day Franken was elected. Think about that for a moment. It's been sitting on a cd, waiting for the moment it was needed, since he was elected. The current sex pest furore, and Tweeden's book deal with Sinclair is ideal. The camera was a NikonD2H. Standard issue to Army photographers at the time. You are asked to believe that a serving soldier would not only stand back and let a civilan be sexually assaulted in her sleep, but take pictures of the assault!Within hours of Franken requesting he be investigated, Tweeden accepted his apology for any distress caused. Thus she avoided repeating her allegations under oath. |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Lest we Forget -- Al Franken is NOT Roy Moore:
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Of course, this might be a photoshopping by some left winger, to make it look like some right winger had photoshopped the image. The way Schrubbia's National Guard record was a set-up? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
More Women Accuse Franken Of Groping. Senator Responds: ‘I Feel Terribly’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo
Dated Nov 24, 2017 A FYI bare link. Moose
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
In today's Washington Post in the article ‘I know that I’ve let a lot of people down,’ Franken says on return to Capitol, this paragraph appeared:
quote: If Franken remembers decades of groping women's butts this poorly, if to him it is such a minor thing that he can't even recall these episodes, he should resign now. He's not fit for public office. He's much more fit than the groper/liar-in-chief, but he's still not fit. --Percy
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If Franken remembers decades of groping women's butts this poorly, Franken did not say that he did not remember grabbing butts. His statement only directly addresses surprise that women are coming forward. Of course, that still does not make Franken any more fit for elected office. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If Franken remembers decades of groping women's butts this poorly, Franken did not say that he did not remember grabbing butts. His statement only directly addresses surprise that women are coming forward. Of course, that still does not make Franken any more fit for elected office. ABE: Franken's did say that he does not remember incidents that appear in photographs. Those statements just were not in the parts Percy quoted. Percy's post was accurate. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Things I've just encountered:
Al Franken returns to Capitol Hill, says he’s let a lot of people down and wants to regain trust Franken ‘Can’t Say’ He Hasn’t Grabbed A Woman’s Butt During Photo-Op - TPM – Talking Points Memo Nonreligious Questions Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
If Franken remembers decades of groping women's butts this poorly, if to him it is such a minor thing that he can't even recall these episodes, he should resign now. As I've seen it, Franken is pretty much neither admitting nor denying any of the incidents. He certainly is taking pains not to accuse any woman of lying about it, although he did seem to imply that Tweeden was lying ("I didn't remember it that way"). He seems to be not contesting the charges as being true or possibly true, regardless of whether or not he thinks they are true. He seems to be holding out for an ethics committee hearing (I think rightfully so), rather than getting into a public media battle of "she's lying, she's not lying". I think the Tweeden matter is a Fox News based smear campaign, one without substance beyond the photo that Franken concedes as being a "seemed funny at the time, but it isn't" joke. Are there some "me toos" joining Tweeden??? Suppose most or all the charges against him are indeed false. If you were him, how would you handle the accusations? Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Left a word out + added a bit more. Edited by Minnemooseus, : Fix typo in Percy's subtitle.
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