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Tanypteryx
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Message 239 of 300 (825761)
12-17-2017 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by ringo
12-17-2017 1:30 PM


Re: Assault and Pepper Spray
And the voters should have the right to decide on Moore, too. If they choose to elect an accused child molester or a convicted serial killer, they should have the right to do so.
They already decided, he lost.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 264 of 300 (826824)
01-10-2018 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Taq
01-10-2018 2:46 PM


Re: A couple of ancient history links, plus something newer
What Americans will not accept is someone who abuses their power on a regular basis to support a ongoing corrupt system
Well, except for admitted sexual predator Trump. Separate from the individual women who accused Trump there are the documented occasions when he barged into the dressing rooms at his beauty pageants.
Apparently, somewhere around half of the voting Americans do accept abuse of power and systematic corruption in the Whitehouse.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 273 of 300 (843505)
11-18-2018 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Percy
11-18-2018 12:28 PM


Re: A Little More Avenatti News (Very Little)
I keep open this possibility only because Avenatti seems the only Democrat capable of speaking Trump to Trump.
In my mind speaking Trump to Trump would be lying continuously. I haven't paid much attention to Avenatti, mainly because he mimics Trump's promises of damaging revelations in the future instead of just telling it. Like Trump he spends most of his time prepping his audience for his sensational announcements.
I have little doubt the Avenatti is likely to be another victim of the rightwing smear machine that has become completely merged with the Trump propaganda operation.
I need open and full disclosures as well as positive resolutions of all these things with no more incidents before I could even consider considering Avenatti as a possible presidential candidate.
Avenatti doesn't strike me as a leader who inspires confidence that he is interested in actually trying to solve the major issues facing our country and our planet.
I don't see any viable way that engaging Trump can be a winning strategy. Trump and his minions repeat the lies, chant the lies, and are completely delusional about the truth even when it is shown to them clearly.
The Trump propaganda operation's effectiveness could be dulled if the press quit showing Trump's lies over and over. He has suckered them into becoming his tool and he routinely uses them to "Franken-boat" his enemies. The propagandists at fox have honed their character assassination tools since the Clinton years very effectively.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 275 of 300 (843519)
11-18-2018 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by Percy
11-18-2018 4:08 PM


Re: A Little More Avenatti News (Very Little)
In chronological order as I remember them:
  • Avenatti predicted that Trump knew about the Stormy Daniels payoffs, and he was right.
  • He claimed Michael Cohen, Trump's personal lawyer, was lying about how the Stormy Daniels agreement came about, and he was right.
  • He predicted that Michael Cohen would be indicted, and he was right.
  • He predicted that Michael Cohen would cooperate with Mueller, and he was right.
Actually I think most of America suspected those things also, I know I did.
What were these sensational announcements you mentioned that never came to pass?
Sorry, I guess I was not clear. I didn't say he didn't follow through, I'm just sick of the sensationalization. Just quit building it up and spit it out.
What do you base this on, given that you just above said, "I haven't paid much attention to Avenatti"? That question posed, it is true he has no experience in government.
It seemed that for a period before he talked about running for the presidency every time I wanted to watch the news there he was talking about all the Stormy stuff but not about the issues beyond Trump's treatment of women.
I'm hoping there will be someone who doesn't just want to be the anti-Trump, but that really has some practical suggestions for addressing the issues that threaten our people and our land and all the other life that lives here also.
Avenatti didn't blame "the right wing smear machine." He actually blamed someone very specific, Jacob Wohl, the mind behind the failed scam to take down Robert Mueller from a month or two ago (he tried to recruit women to falsely testify they'd been sexually abused by Mueller).
I am not talking about who he blames, I'm talking about Hannity and the rest who have spent lots the past 25 years on character assassination of anyone on the left who dares to point out their treachery. If he tries to tell the truth about any of the Republicans or Trump, they will do the same thing they are continuously doing to the Clintons and Gore and Kerry, and every climate scientist, in fact any scientist.
I welcome Avenetti's criticism of Trump and his thugs, more power to him. I suspect that he has been set up with the charges considering that there doesn't seem to be any corroboration when it is really looked into. I hope he will get it cleared up and I cheer any black eyes he can give Trump and the rest of his crime organization.
The trouble with matching Trump's behavior is that it demeans us all and you know what they say about wrestling pigs.
Edited by Tanypteryx, : spelling

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 279 of 300 (843560)
11-19-2018 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by Percy
11-19-2018 10:33 AM


Re: A Little More Avenatti News (Very Little)
If you're now saying you didn't mean that Avenatii makes false implications for which he never provides evidence, just like Trump, then okay.
...I'm just sick of the sentimentalization. Just quit building it up and spit it out.
What sentimentalization? Avenatti's no sentimentalist. He's a pragmatist. Are we even talking about the same person?
I meant sensationalization, which my spell checker thought was misspelled and its suggested correction was sentimentalization, which I didn't look at closely enough. I will go back and edit the post.
I don't know enough about Avenatti to discuss him and I should stayed out of it. I would like to see someone destroy Trump and the rest of those traitors at the polls, but I worry that the damage they are doing cannot be undone.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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