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Agobot
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Message 1 of 84 (479851)
08-30-2008 3:51 PM


There have been numerous researches that link cow's milk and cancer in humans:
http://www.consumerhealthjournal.com/...milk-and-cancer.html
Hormones in milk can be dangerous – Harvard Gazette
Cow's milk containes more than 50 hormones designed to boost the calf's immune system and regulate its fast growth. Nature has designed the multi component cow's milk... yes, for calves. While human breast milk is the best food for an infant(and there is no question about it), so is cow's milk the best food for calves. For them it's a fully nutritional, healthy beverage that containes more than 50 hormones, some of which are:
- bombesine(a neuropeptide) (3)
- GRP (Gastrin-releasing peptide) (4)
- substance P (a neurotransmitter) (5)
- CGRP (calcitonin-gene-related peptide, also a neurotransmitter) (5)
- IGF-1 (Insulin-like growth factor-1) (6)
- IGF-2 (6)
- EGF (Epidermal growth factor) (7)
- NGF (Nerve growth factor) (8)
- PRP (Prolactin-releasing peptide (9)
- LHRH (or : GnRH, stimulates secretion of LH and FSH) (10)
- progesterone (11)
- peptide YY (12)
- peptide histidine methionine (12)
- neuropeptide Y (stimulating appetite) (13)
- TRH (stimulating TSH secretion) (14) TRH stimulates prolactin- (15) and GH secretion (16), through T3. (17)
- TSH (stimulating T3- and T4 secretion) (18)
- T3 (Triiodothyronine) (19) T3 increases the number of estrogenreceptors, increasing estrogen-influence. (20)
- GHRF (Growth-hormone-releasing factor) (21) GHRF stimulates GH- and (through GH) IGF-1 and -2 secretion (22)
- ACTH (regulating cortisol secretion) (21)
- neurotensine (23)
- cortisol (24)
- insuline (regulating blood-glucose level) (25)
- beta-endorphine (opioid peptide) (26)
- small opioid peptides (see site12)
- benzodiazepine-agonist peptides (neurotransmitters) (27).
- estrogen (28) - chief promoter of breast and prostate cancers
...
There is also a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and I would suspect that most likely it will eventually be found to promote all cancers).
On top of this, milk also containes allergens, cholesterol and pesticides that enter the milk directly from the green plants that the cow consumes. Cow's milk is also allowed to have feces in it and this is a major source for bacteria(supposedly killed by pasteurization). Pus is a very common ingredient of cow's milk as well.
Farmers keep cows pregnant every year just for the milk(effectively stealing the best food that nature could design for the calf).
I've given up milk and dairy more than a year ago and never looked back. My question is:
How can you drink something that has such god-awful ingredients? Just thinking about this cocktail of hormones, enzymes, proteins, pus, feces, allergens, dioxins, bacteria, cholesterol and pesticides is enough to make me puke day and night. Which one of these do you want in your body(and believe me, this is just a part of what's inside every sip of milk)?
Coffee House?
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Message 2 of 84 (479876)
08-30-2008 6:08 PM


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Message 3 of 84 (479881)
08-30-2008 6:18 PM
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08-30-2008 3:51 PM


Something worse than milk
Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!
The Invisible Killer
Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Dihydrogen monoxide:
* is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
* contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
* may cause severe burns.
* contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
* accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
* may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
* has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Contamination Is Reaching Epidemic Proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
* as an industrial solvent and coolant.
* in nuclear power plants.
* in the production of styrofoam.
* as a fire retardant.
* in many forms of cruel animal research.
* in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
* as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
The Horror Must Be Stopped!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.

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Message 4 of 84 (479882)
08-30-2008 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
08-30-2008 3:51 PM


Farmers keep cows pregnant every year just for the milk(effectively stealing the best food that nature could design for the calf).

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Message 5 of 84 (479886)
08-30-2008 6:35 PM
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08-30-2008 6:18 PM


Re: Something worse than milk
You are right that we are the greatest enemies of nature, but if you really cannot afford to stop using DHMO, so be it. But you can safely stop dairy products at any time. The whole of Asia does not consume milk(except japan in the last few decades, where cancers have been on the rise, year on year). It's about a choice that you CAN make, you are not forced to drink the calf's milk in ANY way and your economy will not crumble if you decide to stop it(as opposed to abolishing DMHO).
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Message 6 of 84 (479887)
08-30-2008 6:45 PM
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08-30-2008 3:51 PM


Can't think of a single food, not even DiHydrodogen Monoxide where someone hasn't made a similar case.
Even oxygen is poisonous.

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Message 7 of 84 (479889)
08-30-2008 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Agobot
08-30-2008 6:35 PM


Got Milk?
Then with what would I wash down my hotdogs?

Kindly
When I was young I loved everything about cigarettes: the smell, the taste, the feel . everything. Now that I’m older I’ve had a change of heart. Want to see the scar?

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Message 8 of 84 (479890)
08-30-2008 6:54 PM
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08-30-2008 6:45 PM


Danger, danger, High voltage......
mark24 writes:
Even oxygen is poisonous.
Correct. Every one without exception who has come into contact with oxygen has gone on to die. It's hard to detect the damage as well.
In some case it has taken over 80 years for symptoms to manifest.
But contact with oxygen is always fatal.

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Message 9 of 84 (479891)
08-30-2008 6:55 PM
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08-30-2008 6:49 PM


Re: Got Milk?
lyx2no writes:
Then with what would I wash down my hotdogs?
The poor little calves... they have no idea another animal is drinking their mother's milk... with a hotdog.

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Message 10 of 84 (479893)
08-30-2008 6:57 PM
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08-30-2008 6:55 PM


Got Parts?
they have no idea another animal is drinking their mother's milk
They have no Idea another animal is drinking their mother's milk while eating their dad.

Kindly
When I was young I loved everything about cigarettes: the smell, the taste, the feel . everything. Now that I’m older I’ve had a change of heart. Want to see the scar?

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Message 11 of 84 (479894)
08-30-2008 7:06 PM
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08-30-2008 6:57 PM


Re: Got Parts?
lyx2no writes:
They have no Idea another animal is drinking their mother's milk while eating their dad.
Yeah, calves do not enjoy a happy lifestyle any way you look at it. But eating meat is safer, as our ancestors have been consuming meat for tens of millions of years, thus giving evolution enough time to adapt our bodies to meat consumption. On the other hand, we have been drinking cow's milk for what? - a few millenia? Why is cancer such a surprise then? In a few million years natural selection will single out those of us that will have developed resistance to cow's milk cancer promoting hormones.
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Message 12 of 84 (479895)
08-30-2008 7:12 PM
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08-30-2008 6:49 PM


Re: Got Milk?
quote:
Then with what would I wash down my hotdogs?
You wash down your hotdogs with Dihydrogen Monoxide ?!
Is that carbonated or still?
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"We must respect the law, not let it blind us away from the basic principles of fairness, justice and freedom"

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Message 13 of 84 (479897)
08-30-2008 7:28 PM
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08-30-2008 7:12 PM


Dihydrogen Monoxide
Sounds like it has them there evil chemicals in it. I'll stick with nature. Everything natural is good for me. Um . methylmercury.

Kindly
When I was young I loved everything about cigarettes: the smell, the taste, the feel . everything. Now that I’m older I’ve had a change of heart. Want to see the scar?

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Message 14 of 84 (479901)
08-30-2008 8:32 PM
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08-30-2008 6:35 PM


Re: Something worse than milk
The whole of Asia does not consume milk...
By and large, East and South Asians are lactose intolerant. They don't have the mutation that we northern European offspring tend to that lets adults digest milk - any form of milk. So they get upset stomachs if they do consume dairy products.
And then, too, Mongols traditionally drink an alcoholic beverage made from milk. Horse milk, IIRC.
The list of Scary Chemicals in your OP includes a great many that are made in your own body and are essential for life, Agobot. And does your source list concentrations? Parts per billion, do you think? Or per trillion?

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Message 15 of 84 (479906)
08-30-2008 10:11 PM
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08-30-2008 3:51 PM


I don't know if this thread is a joke or not, but let me point something out.
agobot writes:
estrogen (28) - chief promoter of breast and prostate cancers
Yeah, and it's also the chief promoter of growth and development in females. Unless you're a pedophile who wants your females young and flat, I fail to see why a sane person would list this hormone as something that ought to be banned.

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