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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: That's just downright insulting - if we want to get into that pissing content, I'd lay money you'd lose. I guess that means that my views are worth more than your.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
B2P, I really am sorry about what's happened in your life, and I agree that you have gone through more than a lot of kids your age have, but you set me up.
You characterized your experience of a cop flipping you off as a "real life" adventure, trying to show how teenagers maybe have experienced more things like this than adults, so their expectations of what they consider "tense" are different. Any reasonable person would have assumed, due to your own example, that a cop flipping you off was what you would have considered an exciting "real life experience". This new information changes things WRT my perceptions, but since you did not imply any situation other than having a very normal childhood, why should I have imagined any of the things you told me happened to you and those around you?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Well, your views might be worth more than mine, yes.
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One_Charred_Wing Member (Idle past 6186 days) Posts: 690 From: USA West Coast Joined: |
Schraff writes: B2P, I really am sorry about what's happened in your life, and I agree that you have gone through more than a lot of kids your age have, but you set me up. Thank you. Honestly though, you're right that I kind of played stupid enough for you to assume I was an idiot, and to engage in that my-life-is-harder 'pissing contest' as Charles Knight put it was very irresponsible of me, and I'm really sorry for spilling that at you.
You characterized your experience of a cop flipping you off as a "real life" adventure, trying to show how teenagers maybe have experienced more things like this than adults, so their expectations of what they consider "tense" are different. You're right; I used a really bad example. My point was that even though this event wasn't particularly dangerous, it was very exciting and as such seeing fictional excitement on screen may not seem as thrilling just after said event.
Any reasonable person would have assumed, due to your own example, that a cop flipping you off was what you would have considered an exciting "real life experience". Actually, I do consider it that. Not that some of those things weren't terribly real to me, but sitting in a hospital waiting room for four hours awaiting to talk to somebody for the last time is horribly boring and slow paced. Sounds kind of heartless I know, but you can only feel sorry for yourself for so long before all the waiting gets kind of dull. A cop flipping me the bird was MUCH more exciting and frankly more fun.
This new information changes things WRT my perceptions, but since you did not imply any situation other than having a very normal childhood, why should I have imagined any of the things you told me happened to you and those around you? I'm not sure what WRT means, although I do see your point. But in answering your last sentence I must mention that most people I know do not have what you seem to be implying as a normal childhood. I know some ridiculously rich kids at my school, but at the same time that just means they can buy better X, you know? Either way I'm sorry about this and thank you for your concern. I hope I never crossed any lines with my femme-nazi jokes and after this I'll lay off on them. However, please feel free to cap on me for being a stupid 16 year old who really doesn't know that much anyhow. Just because I've dealt with pain and suffering doesn't mean I understand the full spectrum of emotion; there's a lot more to life than toughing out hardships as I'm starting to learn. Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
quote: then in that case... it's been a long, long time since i've seen a 'good' movie.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
no college is not reality.
but then nothing is. academia is our best translation and interpretation of reality. in reality no body wants to fight or one-up each other or anything. people, in reality, want to eat and sleep in peace and to protect and be with those they love. none of this bullshit really matters. but our societies... the stupid crap that people invent in large groups... warp our primal desires into the kind of garbage you see. then academics filter it and analyze it and then you average people get the dumbed-down result on the discovery channel, etc. academia is shaping our new society... not the other way round. you may be offended that it is your opinions that don't particularly matter, but deal with it. that's the way life works.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
women's studies is not a form of literary criticism.
getting a few more women ceo's and putting birth control on health plans won't solve our problems... those aren't the problems. the problem is that i can't stand at the bus stop in the morning without a dozen men driving by hooting at me. i don't care how much you pay me as long as you don't directly express your idea that i am simply a body that needs to be fucked. and academic careers don't end when you decide to have children. they end when you decide you'd rather stay at home to raise the child. get used to it. raising children is a full time job. and until you quit demonizing men who decide to stay home to raise children as "lazy bastards leeching off their women" then women will have to do it... or we'll have ANOTHER generation of kids raised by themselves. this is not advancement.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
quote: tell me the last time you met a chick who didn't act like that? (you can't cite me, you don't know me.) women have always been this way. it's how they compete between each other. they want money because they want security. i want to marry someone who makes a nice paycheck someday, not because i want shiny things like most, but because i know if i get sick, an i always do, he can take care of me. i know he will be able to feed my children, he will be able to educate them, etc. but look at the women around you. how many of them wear those short ass skirts with words written on the back? i saw a girl wearing a shirt one day that said "moist hottie" or something. i don't quite recall the second word but the first was most definitely "moist". they all dress like whores. it's disgusting. and then they whine and bitch when people treat them like trash. what is the number one complaint of all nice guys? "chicks date assholes and then whine that there are no nice guys... to us!" why do they know this? because they're right and they are the ones we whine to. comedy is funny because it reflects the reality that we want to ignore and makes it less scary and hard to deal with. it's funny because it's true.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
tell me the last time you met a chick who didn't act like that? My wife? That is, after all, why I married her - her remarkably good sense. (Her good sense in marrying me, however, may have been questionable.)
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
the adventures get realer and realer and the intel factor gets smaller and smaller
get over yourself. by the time i was a teenager (i have now edged out of this range) i had lost my father, been faced with nearly losing my mother, lost a grandfather and several other well loved relatives, been kicked out of schools that decided they didn't want to live up to the challenge of educating me, lived in 6 different cities, had and lost more friends than you will ever meet, been physically and emotionally abused by school officials, nearly died three or four times myself one of those being when i was hit by a car riding my bike, and of course been maliciously abused by my fellow students. i'd reacted and attacked another student, i'd left a few school campuses in anger. i was more adult than the adults in charge of me for most of my life. in the end of my teenage years i was in a short-lived but emotionally and sexually abusive relationship and have attended four different colleges searching for intellectual stimulation (i've since given up in the search for a degree... might as well get out before i lose my mind). two weeks ago, my ex's mother informed me that i don't know anything about anything. i already have a degree and am in the process of attaining another. i've been told by a professor that a term paper i wrote on events in iraq over the last 15 years is worth fixing up to publish. i'm sick and tired of hearing about how kids don't know anything and how their opinions don't count. maybe you were braindead until you hit 20, but the rest of us weren't. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 09-20-2004 09:52 PM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
women's studies is not a form of literary criticism. Your milage may vary, but in my college experience, women's studies has always been presented as a form of cultural literary criticism; studying gender politics in popular culture, television, writing, journalism, etc. And there is certainly a feminist model of literary criticism.
the problem is that i can't stand at the bus stop in the morning without a dozen men driving by hooting at me. Get a gun. I don't know if that will make them stop hooting - you're apparently such a looker that men feel open license to hoot at you - but you'll sure feel safer about it packin' heat.
and academic careers don't end when you decide to have children. If you don't have tenure when you decide to have children, in the vast majority of fields, the odds are, you won't ever get it. You'll be shut out of positions in the department because you're a year behind on the tenure clock. I'm surprised to see you deny that this disadvantage exists. It's such an endemic problem that many universities are instituting new policy to specifically address this issue:
quote: That's from MIT. Or from U Mich:
quote: This is a well-known problem in academia; childbearing interrupts you ability to keep pace with others on the tenure clock. Luckily, we're having success in getting universities to institute policy to offset these disadvantages.
until you quit demonizing men who decide to stay home to raise children as "lazy bastards leeching off their women" then women will have to do it... I'm looking at a future where I'm the primary childraiser, supposing my wife and I take that route. She'll almost certainly have a better job than I will. I'm excited for it, if we decide to do it. Hanging with my kids all day sounds like a blast. So, I don't know exactly who you think I've "demonized." Being a father? That's the manliest thing I can think of.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
well good for you. no doubt you found it a rare quality...
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
did i say you specifically were demonizing fatherhood? see this is the problem with the internet... people get all uppity and offended. dude. it's just code.
yes there are problems in which bearing children interferes with jobs, including academia. but see. women are fully capable of continuing certain kinds of research and staying on task during most pregnancies. no they can't work with hazardous chemicals, etc, but then i think there's a choice to be made there. most women only need about a month or two off work. those in dangerous fields may need approximately 2 in order to finish nursing so their junk isn't tainted. but frankly i see that as a choice. which is more important to you? if you've already reached tenure, then you have no worries. if you choose to have children first, then i suppose that's more important. if not, maybe the stay-at-home-dad should get a hormone injection and start nursing, and mom should go back to work. this is the twenty-first century. i don't like it when women seek special treatment because they choose to do something else with their time than work. no, motherhood isn't reprehensible, but saying "i don't want to work for two years and i think you should save my job for me" is. there are plenty of other women who don't want kids who need good jobs. and yes there is a form of feminist literary criticism... but that's not all that women's studies is. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 09-20-2004 10:03 PM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
did i say you specifically were demonizing fatherhood? Ok, well, you did say "you" in a message specifically addressed to me. What was I supposed to think?
no they can't work with hazardous chemicals, etc, but then i think there's a choice to be made there. Why? Why should they have to make a choice at all? That's the point. Women shouldn't have to choose between reproducing and career success; men certainly don't.
i don't like it when women seek special treatment Equal treatment isn't special treatment. Women have a unique condition that fairness demands we take into account. It's the same reason we build wheelchair ramps, etc; people without legs shouldn't have to make a "choice" about trying to get into an airplane bathroom.
and yes there is a form of feminist literary criticism... but that's not all that women's studies is. As I said, your milage may vary, but in my academic experience, that is all it is.
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contracycle Inactive Member |
B2P wrote:
quote: Then I think it is certainly confirmed that your life experience is about nil. B2P, let us recall, once assumed I was a 14-year old and suggested life would be a shock once I got out of school. This righteous outrage is just hypocrisy and bluff.
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