Immigration Bill is Un-American

Hi RAZD, RAZD I kind of like your idea in the op but it would probably only lead to an apathy, and higher costs to tax payers.I recently spent 15 years in a foreign country.I went to the Cayman Islands in 1989 to work for a large Construction Co. I had to have police clearance, health certificate, and speak English. The company had to provide a place to live (that was inspected by gov.) They had to provide health insurance, A suitable wage, and a work permit from the government.
The permit cost $1250. It cost $500 for my wife to stay with me. If I would have had kids I would have had to pay $400 each per month for their schooling. The company had to provide government a deposit for plane fare in case I did something wrong and was deported.The work permit had to be renewed every year.In other words there is no way I could have cost the government one penny during my stay.The Cayman government is not the only country in the world that uses this method.Enjoy

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Why? I certainly don't see any relation between this claim and the following information. Work is part of the program, just as it is part of the "solution" to welfare reform of recent years, except for one difference: it provides the work as well. Did you pay income tax?Did your being there provide work for people in the Caymen Islands or were you taking work from them? And taking your salary out of their economy back here?Enjoy.

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I paid income tax in the US. They do not have enough people to do the work. So I did not take work from anyone. Yes my salary except what I had to spend for groceries came back here.Everyone there pays the same amount of tax. It is a 20% duty that is charged on every item that comes into the county and is then passed on to the consumers. I took my truck down and had to pay 27% duty on it plus license and inspection fee each year.When you buy property you pay a 7% tax at purchase and then no property tax after that. There are states that are staggering under the expense of the illegal's that are drawing on the infurstructure. If the employer was responsible for those things there would be no problem.The wages would be such our people would be willing to work, and the foreign workers would be paid a decent wage.We would have to pay more for products. But the people in the states involved are paying the difference now.Enjoy

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

So you did not contribute significantly to the economy of the Caymen Islands even though you used their economy to support your job. I bet you were able to deduct those costs from your income tax too. Think of the costs you paid as a fixed tax on foreign workers to give back to that economy. We ask the same of immigrant workers here eh? The wages and benefits would be such that people without any other source of income would be willing and enabled to work, and it would provide them a step towards better paying jobs in the future instead of stagnating.It would feed to bottom of the economic rung in society, and this in turn would feed the levels above it: the middle class prosperity of the the 50's followed the new deal.Enjoy.

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It's just two guys pretending to be gay, and getting married, for a higher purpose. I thought it was relevant.

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MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest VideosMigration and the changing face of Europe
Demographic shift tops polls as the biggest issue of concern for Europeans, etc.

It's inevitable due to (1) overpopulation and (2) the globalization\homogenization of society.

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From your article, I find the following interesting.

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The pope has suggested the addition of mostly-Muslim Turkey to the EU would be a mistake, while right-wing politicians have gained traction by reminding voters of the dangers posed by homegrown Islamic terrorism.

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What I find interesting is the "progressive" Europeans are more likely to take a firm stand than the USA in revolting against their elected double-talkers.Americans are more paralyzed with PC than any other country, and the politicians know they can fool the people... at least prior to the exposing of the immigration fraud.80% of Americans (Democrats and Republicans) do not want the immigration bill, and the elected officials plan to ignore the will of the people. This has truly exposed the lobby-driven legalized corruption of our politicians.This is an interesting article about the loss of a backbone in Americans to take action:Article: Americans Unready to Revolt, Despite Revolting Conditions | OpEd News

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'Liberalism is a mental disorder' - Michael Savage

Says the guy who lives in Texas

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From your article, I find the following interesting.

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The pope has suggested the addition of mostly-Muslim Turkey to the EU would be a mistake, while right-wing politicians have gained traction by reminding voters of the dangers posed by homegrown Islamic terrorism

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Me, too! Especially since his overtures to the muslims in other categories is 160.From the catechism: 841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]The Christian knows there is no other way to heaven/God but through Christ.Interesting, short read:
http://www.carm.org/catholic/muslims.htm

Malta offers a way station to nowhere
Thousands of unwanted Africans are stuck on this tiny Mediterranean islandMSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest VideosThis little island has its hands full. Imagine it!

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VALLETTA, Malta - A migrant flood has overwhelmed the tiny sun-splashed island nation of Malta over the past five years, stirring charges of human-rights violations, taxing the nation’s tiny navy and fueling xenophobia.

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Article is an interesting read. We are not alone!

While some Christians might think that, what possible relevance does that have to the thread anyway?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Immigration Bill defeated ! Yippie-yi-coyote !The politicians discovered that the public is paying attention and is more informed than they imagined. A few spin words on ABC, CBS, NBC aren't enough to fool the people anymore.

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