Immigration Bill is Un-American

Aside from the legal/illegal question, there is another side to this issue.We can look at this as a question of fairness. There are many people in the world who are waiting in very long lines to get into this country legally. I know a Vietnamese family that applied and waited for the application to go through for 8 years. When they were finally cleared, they had to go to Thailand and stay in a camp for another 2 years before being cleared to come here. They have told me that they have relatives that have been stuck in one of these camps in the Phillipines since the 80's... and they're still there.But if you live in Mexico, you automatically can jump ahead in line?

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Doesn't an immigration bill include everyone trying to enter in this country?Also that Vietnamese family are being detained by who, Americans?Also, don't mis-understand me, I am not for Mexicans coming here illegally.

OK. Food prices go up. But health care and education costs won't increase as fast.Bringing in a huge number of uneducated laborers is good in the short term for the wealthy who use them to cut their costs, but the ancillary costs to the rest of us for many decades will bleed the middle class and the country as a whole.Poverty is hard to eradicate, and it's foolish to think that these illegal immigrants will raise many engineers and doctors. History does not bear this out.

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What history? Did the Italians and Irish raise engineers and doctors? How about the Japanese or Chinese?The only thing foolish is to presume Hispanics are somehow inferior to other ethnic groups.

You are taking my statement way out of context and bringing race into the issue and ignoring the premise that it's a huge number in poverty.Our current immigration laws make sense. We limit the quantities per country (and as a whole, and we ask them to learn the basics of what it means to be an American, to increase likelihood of assimilation of the immigrants.There's a limit to how many high-school drop-outs an economy can bear.

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Yes and no. Yes, it's suppose to do that. No, Mexicans are right next door as oppose to people living thousands of miles away across the biggest ocean on Earth. That's the problem. Nobody is detaining the family. They were cleared by the Vietnamese government to leave the country. What they needed was approval from the American side. Ideally, they were suppose to stay in the camp in the Philipines for no more than a couple years. But because of our wonderful (sarcasm) immigration system, their files are still sitting somewhere waiting for someone to sign his name. So, there they sit for more than 2 decades already.So right now, technically they don't belong to any nation at all. They just sit there waiting for someone to sign the fucking paperworks in D.C. By the way, because they're not citizens of the Philipines, they can't legally work. And unlike Mexican illegal immigrants in the US, they can't just slip away from the camp and disappear into the population because they are still hoping that their files will one day be cleared by some bastard in Washington. In other words, they are living in extreme poverty, purely at the mercy of the locals. No, but from what I've read, you seem to be supporting us legalizing the illegals. I'm just pointing out that there are plenty of people in this world who are willing to wait for decades for some bastard in Washington to at least take a look at their files. Perhaps we should give them a chance first before worrying about the millions and millions of those that simply jumped ahead in line just because they live right next door?P.S. - I've been labeled a racist for having this opinion.

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You said that history shows that immigrants don't create many engineers or doctors. I say they produce around as many as anyone else, so I call bullshit.BTW, unless you are a full-blooded Native American, you or your ancestors are immigrants. Edited by anglagard, : include original quote

If anyone would like to minimize, or even end, illegal immigration the solution is quite simple. Instead of sitting on your ass stuffing your face with Doritos, go out there and start harvesting vegetables, mow lawns, clean motels, and mix chop suey. Get your kids involved too! If there is no money, there will be no immigrants.If you are not doing this, and are instead just loafing and collecting the benefits from the fruits of their labors, then stop whining.

That is why a lottery is the bets way to select them. An arbitrary vote. (and immigration is different from asylum for political purposes). What we need are quotas for numbers of workers to come. It seems to me that if we have an illegal worker problem that the immigration quotas have been too restrictive: there is more work available than immigrants.Enjoy.

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Ok, you marry the guy, and I will marry the girl, and we'll get them here

Um... uh... I'm a guy...

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RAZD, your list for proposed implementation sounds very reasonable, not to mention feasible. It protects the citizens of the nation, both born and naturalized. It protects the immigrant who is seeking a better way of life. And it protects the resources that make any of it even possible-- namely, the economy.

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Ok, I don't have any sense of humor, nor do I have any sense of metaphorical bullshit, nor do I hvae any sense of... whatever...Mind explaining the Adam Sandler part?

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