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stapel
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Message 16 of 21 (28059)
12-29-2002 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by gene90
02-14-2002 10:04 PM


It should be noted that a simple reading of the entire text, along with a little common sense, leads one to arrive at a value for pi of around 3.1395, which surely should be accepted as suitably accurate. For an explanation, try here:
"The Bible says pi = 3":
Does the Bible Really Say π = 3? | Purplemath

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Modulous
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Message 17 of 21 (496769)
01-30-2009 12:43 PM


The pi=3 argument
The pi argument has begun in 51 scientific facts that disprove the Bible. Maybe, if people are really interest they can take it here.

  
Brian
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Message 18 of 21 (496813)
01-30-2009 7:13 PM


A Big Hand for ICANT
Hi ICANT,
Your hand being 4 and 1/8 inch across is very 'handy' isn't it, however this is not the size of a handsbreadth in the Bible.
A handsbreadth is around 3 inches.
As we know a cubit is 18 inches, a handsbreadth was a 1/6 of a cubit, therefore it would be 3 inches ( Scott, R. B. Y. (1958) The Hebrew Cubit Journal of Biblical Literature, Vol. 77, No. 3 (Sep., 1958), pp. 205-214, ref page 213.
Even a quick look at some online Bibles support this.
An online NIV 1 Kings 7:26
It was a handbreadth [q] in thickness, and its rim was like the rim of a cup, like a lily blossom. It held two thousand baths.
The footnote for [q] says "That is, about 3 inches (about 8 centimeters) "
Another interesting snippet in Scott's article is that there is conflicting versions of 1 Kings 7.
On page 209 he tells us that the LXX says the circumference was 33 cubits, in disagreement with the 30 cubits of the MT, and contradicting itself with the parallel passage in 2 Chron. 4.
The MT contradicts itself in regard to the capacity, 1 Kings stating 2000 baths and 2 Chron. stating 3000. The LXX doesn't give the capacity at 1 Kings but states 3000 at 2 Chron.

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Kapyong
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Message 19 of 21 (496817)
01-30-2009 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Brian
01-30-2009 7:13 PM


Re: A Big Hand for ICANT
Hi all,
Not a big issue, but my view is :
The bible does NOT "say Pi is 3".
The bible does IMPLY Pi is 3.
The bible does NOT imply Pi is 3.0.
The bible implies Pi is APPROX. 3.
Which it is.
Pi is 3 to one significant figure,
the significance level given in the passage.
Kapyong

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 20 of 21 (497221)
02-02-2009 4:35 PM
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01-30-2009 7:33 PM


Re: A Big Hand for ICANT
Not a big issue,...
And I think everyone understands this. The issue is raised as a rhetorical point against those who hold inconsistent positions on Biblical literacy and inerrancy.
Capt.

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Brian
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Message 21 of 21 (497550)
02-04-2009 4:00 PM
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01-30-2009 7:33 PM


Re: A Big Hand for ICANT
Hi Kapyong,
Sorry about the delay in reply, I had forgotten about this post, I wasn't 'dinging' you.
Not a big issue, but my view is :
Yes, it isn't a big issue, it is good to have a light hearted topic now and then.
Which it is.
Pi is 3 to one significant figure,
the significance level given in the passage.
I'd still be more impressed if it was rounded to 31 cubits!

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