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Rei Member (Idle past 7039 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
quote: This is really an issue for a Dates and Dating thread. Just some basic summary: there are a number of different types of fossilization. Often there is an infil of material into the cavity, which at the very least cannot infil the cavity until after the cavity is formed. The leeching of material into a cavity often changes the rock around the cavity as well, and this too can sometimes be dated. Some dating methods look not at the bulk minerals that surround the fossil, but at the minerals formed when it was cemeted together. Sometimes you're looking at fossils in metamorphic rocks, for which you can tell that the rocks changed state at least after the fossil was layed down, and date the change of state. Sometimes you have basaltic layers above and below a fossil; you can date the basaltic layers, because the minerals aren't just going to be stuffed between long thin sheets after they're formed and cooled (even in a flood scenario ). Etc. There are several dozen ways to date fossils, and your strawman isn't one of them. I would be surprised if you hadn't already been told that about 10 times; consequently, stating it yet again would be intellectual dishonesty, were that the case. This message has been edited by Rei, 09-29-2004 02:32 PM "Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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Rei Member (Idle past 7039 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
Not to mention, that Christians eat shellfish all the time - sometimes while railing about homosexuality
"Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
It is, of course, off topic other than, as you point out, an example of whatever intellectual dishonesty.
Next time refrain from replying to the off topic part though please. You are right that whatever has been over this before (if my memory serves). whatever, this was posted before you would have seen my warning of a few minutes ago. There will be no more warnings.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Rei,
May I ask what your beliefs are concerning the value/effects of homosexual behavior to society?
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Rei Member (Idle past 7039 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
Off the top of my head:
1. Filling the human need for relationships among those who otherwise would have no relationship. 2. Reducing the rate of accidental pregnancies and (hopefully) the population growth rate and the amount of children growing up to couples forced together by an "accident". Would you care to list the disadvantages? "Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5617 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
The way I understood it, Holistic people, say the shell fish have a different excretory system, and people when eating shell fish accumulate these heavy metals into their being, displacing beneficial elements, though agree its worse now with all the pollution, it doesn't mean it was not a problem before pollution, cause of the creatures excretory system(why I believe the bible called it an abomination because God was protecting the seed of Issac from mutations)(why in part the Gentiles were considered unclean)(and the Jews were considered clean)(all their geneologies), and people eating shell fish accumulate what the accumulators (shellfish) accumulated, etc...
P.S. Are not a whole lot of the unclean creatures unclean that eat the shell fish, its not inconsistency, but makes sense, if you don't want children that have mutations, too me was why in part the bible talked of the clean and unclean creatures, only God could of known the hazards of the elements unseen that cause mutations, and record the clean and unclean creatures, and if eating them is known to increase abominable mutations, wouldn't it be confirming the uncleaness of the shell fish, etc... This message has been edited by whatever, 09-29-2004 02:52 PM
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Rei writes: "1. Filling the human need for relationships among those who otherwise would have no relationship." Are you speaking specifically about sexual relationships or are you implying that homosexual people don't have any relationships with the opposite sex?
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
dpardo writes:
You don't have to worry about me. I'm actually scared of the opposite sex. homosexual people don't have any relationships with the opposite sex? For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November! Why? Bush is a right wing nutcase.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Rei writes: "Would you care to list the disadvantages?" 1. With homosexuality being against God's design/plan, the people involved in such a relationship separate themselves from God. This dooms the relationship/marraige to fail from the start. In order for a relationship to be lasting/joyful/fulfilling, the participants must follow the principles given in scripture regarding their conduct and roles. If we choose to reject God's guidelines, we inevitably create our own. Godless man's tendency is to focus on the self. The "What's in it for me?" philosophy. If we approach a relationship with that attitude, we will, as you probably already know, fail.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Is a homosexual environment superior to a heterosexual one for the purpose of raising children?
Would anyone care to chime in? Should I be creating a new topic or can we somehow relate this, ultimately, to "Intellectual Dishonesty"?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
With homosexuality being against God's design/plan, the people involved in such a relationship separate themselves from God. This dooms the relationship/marraige to fail from the start. That's so weird. I know at least three gay couples that have been together for 20 years or more. Yet my heterosexual parents are divorced. How could that possibly be, though? God's plan totally should have kept them together, and blown the sinning homosexual couples asunder.
Should I be creating a new topic Yes. This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 09-29-2004 03:53 PM "If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars." -George Meyer, Simpsons writer
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2328 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
I suggest that this does need to be a new topic. Dwelling on the details pulls us away from the OP.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll writes: "That's so weird. I know at least three gay couples that have been together for 20 years or more. Yet my heterosexual parents are divorced." Did your parents tell you why they divorced?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Did your parents tell you why they divorced? They didn't have to. The baby Jesus obviously pushed them apart, because they fell out of step with God's holy plan. I still don't get how those homosexual couples stayed together, though. I guess that technically they will one day be separated by death, but that doesn't really count, does it? "If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars." -George Meyer, Simpsons writer
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dpardo Inactive Member |
AdminAsgara writes: "I suggest that this does need to be a new topic. Dwelling on the details pulls us away from the OP." Thank you. I will create a new topic so that we may discuss the pros and cons of homosexuality and heterosexuality in the context of effects to society.
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