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Message 468 of 1325 (775862)
01-05-2016 10:36 PM


David Rockefeller January 4 2015
One of (if not the most) the most influential men in the world dies at 100.
This man was so angry at the exclusion of Japan among the Bilderberg group, that he co-founded (with Zbig) the Trilateral Commission, which includes Asians in the powerful body.
Now the Trilateral Commission is a powerhouse body on par with the Council for Foreign Relations.
Many trade deals and organizations were this man's idea. Like the FTAA.
Since NAFTA, we have seen the economy and wages improve so much in Mexico, that now more Mexicans leave the U.S. each year than arrive (don't tell Donald Trump and his supporters). In 2014, the United States per capita GDP was $54,000 and in PPP terms Mexico was almost $18,000 per capita. Perhaps more trade and increased economic prospects abroad is the key to reversing migration patterns?
Thanks to trailblazers like the indefatigable David Rockefeller, we found out.
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Message 593 of 1325 (804319)
04-08-2017 3:02 AM


Investivative reporter who wrote critical Trump piece in Jan 1979
Wayne Barrett died in January.
His Like Father, Like Son Jan 15,1979 article was the first of many.
He has been given credit (by Senator Chuck Schumer himself! ) for a Democratic pick-up in the 1998 Senate race where Republican incumbent Al D'amato lost to Schumer.
D'amato made his major campaign issue the almost complete absence of Schumer in the Senate in 1998 and Schumers only response (oft repeated in the most expensive campaign in history ) was the self-defeating, "THE tRUTH Chuck Schumer has a 92% lifetime attendance record " as if that helped him.
But Barrett somehow managed to get a ton of tips after digging relentlessly , with the help of an army of interns, in the Long Island county of Nassau (D'Amato was a member of the board of supervisors when he ran for the Senate successfully in 1980) ffor any government documents that could put D'Amato in the spotlight. It resulted in Barrett getting Board of Supervisors minutes showing the then GOP Senate candidate missed 91% of votes while aggressively making his 1980 Senate run.
The story ran on the night before the election and sunk the Republican incumbent''s campaign as his attendance attack on the future Democratic leader was essentially the main beef he felt voters would have been concerned with enough to reject the candidacy of.

  
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Message 773 of 1325 (861715)
08-25-2019 5:22 PM


The Kochs and Ron Paul were big open borders supporters. Trump SMASHED them.
Democrats say immigration issues are why Trump is "evil".
So why is immigration relegated to a secondary status (to economic issues), now (when Kochs are the subject)?
Opportunism.
Correction:
Political opportunism.
(Kochs have made opposition to Trump a major issue for 2020, and to the end that they will support Democrats)
A major reason why I can't stand Democrats.
The same Democratic party that hates being called "the DemoCRAT party', because of the subliminal "rats" political ad of the late 1990's.
They are a bunch of ratty rats.
Nobody likes a "rat".
(I love the animals btw, just hate human slime balls that hurt others in an unethical way)

  
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Message 774 of 1325 (861721)
08-25-2019 5:47 PM


I just got a hold of an old (1993) Newsweek issue.
There was a time when Democrats had character.
Clinton was in a bitter negotiation with Republicans.
The issue was NAFTA (which was only going to pass by a bare majority AT BEST).
Potential Republican supporters were in almost as much hot water as pro-NAFTA Democrats.
The issue was whether Clinton would be able to stop Pro-Democratic groups for running ads against Republicans who supported NAFTA. Clinton was assuring them he would do his best, and he really meant it. Republicans wanted guarantees that they would not be lambasted, IN POLITICAL ADS, for supporting NAFTA.
(I can quote the 1993 Newsweek issue, if anybody requests it)
Clinton had character. 2019 Democrats should learn from his example.
Sincerely, LamarkNewAge.

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Message 791 of 1325 (863615)
09-28-2019 12:48 AM
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09-25-2019 8:18 PM


Re: John David Dingell Jr. (July 8, 1926 — February 7, 2019)
But he was an "evil" gun nut.
I am going by memory, but didn't he get called a lot of bad names by people on the left (during the 80s and 90s)?
It had to do with guns. The famous "jack-booted" government troops comment (about the government being the thugs) came from him.
Always remember that many heroes among the Democratic party were on the opposite side of the party member's position today.
I get amazed when I see yards with many signs covering important issues to the home owner. I will see a yard with 5 out of the 6 signs presenting messages like "Keep hate out of Nebraska", and "Everybody is welcome". Very much they are indeed genuinely moral messages covering vitally important issues. Then there will be an odd message thrown into the yard which says "guns kill".
I feel like the gun issue is massively diluting the impact of the more important issues. People will then see the messages against racial bigotry as sleazy and insincere. Just cheap "political" messaging stuff mostly unrelated to real world affairs.
Perhaps Dingell will be viewed as out-of-date on the gun issue, as so many old folks tend to be seen on a good many issues. But he was for civil rights. Yet he didn't see pro-gun folks as some anti-minority militia trooper or some Neo Nazi type of group. He saw the government as the more SS type than the pro-gun groups.
I don't like guns myself (I think the physical impact on humans is minor, but I just hate what is done to so many various animals).

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Message 941 of 1325 (884119)
01-23-2021 10:21 AM
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01-23-2021 8:50 AM


Re: Larry King, 87
I loved it when he covered UFOs.
I got the feeling he would have covered some very interesting stuff, if not for fears of attacks ( you conspiracy theorist, your fired)

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Message 954 of 1325 (884419)
02-17-2021 1:38 PM
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02-17-2021 12:52 PM


Re: The Rush
NAFTA would not have been possible without his support.
In 1991, Brit Hume and Henry Kissinger had an important meeting, at the request of the Bush administration, with Rush. He was told, gor the good of the country, that he needed to risk loosing half his audience, by supporting NAFTA. He did the tight thing, but lost lots of money and supporters over his brave stand. Helped endure enough Republican support, in the tight fight, for sure.
The world owes him a debt.
He had to backtrack on his longtime pro immigration stands, around the middle of the first decade of our century. He was generally silent, and careful previously.
Chuck Schumer had a secret meeting with Rush , according to Rush himself, telling the host how good it would be for Republicans to support the immigration legislation around 2007.
Rush had to be anti immigraion. I suppose. He was at least silent for a long time. Until Lou Dobbs blew the issue into a burning, unavoidable one.
He was a good member of the loyal opposition, in so many ways.
2 people are responsible for NAFTA.
Bill Clinton, who took the political hitting his party for supporting it.
And Rush.
Thank you Rush.

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Message 956 of 1325 (884425)
02-17-2021 9:27 PM
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02-17-2021 7:47 PM


Re: The "distinguished American" Rush
Bill Clinton told Larry King that he owes him a debt that could never be stamped "paid", as NAFTA would never have passed without the incredible, historic Gore-Perot 1993 debate.
During the debate, Al Gore singled out 3 diverse and "distinguished" people who supported NAFTA: Colin Powell, Thomas "Tip" O'Neill, and RUSH LIMBAUGH.
The history and multi nation battles that led to the culmination of NAFTA would blow minds.
Before Mexico was shockingly included, there was the decade long battle for the U.S.-Canada free trade deal. It nearly sunk bBrian Mulroney's Progressive Conservative party in a battle for reelection. It was such an uphill fight for free trade and the fight against xenophobia. The fight for humanity sharing common ground and common aspirations.
Rush Limbaugh was a friend of humanity. Bill Clinton said free trade was the most humane thing that this country ever did, and literally billions of humans were helped.
This man is owed a lot, and if cannot be repaid. Thank you for being where you were Rush.
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Message 988 of 1325 (887379)
08-01-2021 3:54 PM


Brooklyn federal judge Jack Weinstein died. NOOOOO
This 99 year old man died, but he hung on, for the sake of humanity, to his senior judgeship for most of his life.
Truly one of the heroes of the human race.
One does not know how to begin to describe what a rare person this man is.
I will just give one example:
He was so disgusted with the ridiculous sentences for viewing and/or "posession" of online pornography ( minimum sentence-per-charge in Arizona is 10 years with no early release) that he threw out every case, that came to his federal courtroom, as a "mistrial".
He hung on to life, and his honorable public service job, long, so he could make the lives of everyone else better. I always said, of the honorable man, "may he live long and prosper", while giving the Vulcan hand gesture.
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Message 1000 of 1325 (888017)
08-29-2021 9:52 PM
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08-29-2021 5:24 PM


Re: Ed Asner, 91
This was a bold one and it sucks he died.
He was a very outspoken critic of the September 11 issue, and he was a near constant guest, from 2005 to 2007, on the Alex Jones program.
He just did not seem to let peer pressure determine what he felt about the overall evidence that he personally felt was in play. And he let it all out too. I feel that he helped the cause of science, despite the fact that it wasn't his intent. His total adherence to all the facts (overall) on the ground, in the political arena, helped radiate a growing national mindset that strongly encouraged the engaging of all the inconvenient datums in science.
Creationism feel apart around the time Ed Asner was fighting the suppression of political details that needed to be factored into our policy equations. Heck, even Donald Trump made an eventual journey from a Rosie O'Donnell basher (partly over 9/11) to something of a 9/11 Truther position, years later. No doubt about the fact that the 9/11 Truther types helped create a national climate that resulted in strong public pressure against the NATO invasion of Africa and the war against sinst Syria.
Carl Sagan said that he felt the library of Alexandria was destroyed because the supporters of science never spoke out against any bad political policies in their present time. The movement of the heavens were discussed, the justice of slavery was not. When the destroyers came for the ruination of the library, nobody, supportive of the library, was around to defend its existence.
Ed Asner spoke out against bad policies and he helped ignite an anti war fire.
Carl Sagan said that the suppression of inconvenient information is common in politics and religion but if has no place in the endeavor of science.
But Sagan already told us that political attitudes, among the population, are highly relevant to advancing the scientific effort.
Ed Asner fought against the suppressing of the details that many policy makers demand we never know about.
(George Romney went to Vietnam to talk to military policy officials and the military leaders. He came back and flatly said that he never experienced such a brainwashing in his entire life. He said he was fed a load of crap, and he made it clear that it was not just the political twirls, but also the generals who lied to him. It effectively ended his political career)
Ed Asner cut his teeth during the Vietnam war period, but he was still speaking truth, to and past the powers, and directly to the people. He was proud to stand up against the brainwashers that suppress facts and ruin careers.

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Message 1009 of 1325 (888884)
10-18-2021 9:49 PM
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10-18-2021 10:51 AM


Colin Powell called out McCain for not challenging the anti Arab sentiments of suppo
I remember my disgust when John McCain was at a campaign event in the last month of the 2008 Presidential campaign.
An old white lady said that she heard that Obama was "an Arab", and she said it with fear and trepidation.
John McCain then took her microphone, and gave perhaps the most disgraceful response in Presidential campaign history.
He defended Obama, against the "Arab" accusation, by saying, "No ma'am, he is a good, decent American that I happen to disagree with".
Wow!
I watched all the networks and only Wolf Blitzer seemed to notice what a totally racist response we all had to come to grips with.
(Blitzer was interviewing commentators, who brought up NOTHING of what McCain's response really was, then Blitzer quietly said, "There is also nothing wrong with being an Arab")
But then came General Colin Powell, on a late endorsement of Obama, on Meet The Press.
Gen. Powell expressed strong disgust with McCain's defense of Obama. He did not dare call it racist, but he had the distinction of being the only politician who would express disapproval at McCain over the incident.
(I am not happy that his MTP comments were an anomaly - among commentators - with regards to McCain's campaign event response to "I heard he's an Arab"; frankly it was and is sad that his dismay was indeed anomalous)
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Message 1016 of 1325 (888894)
10-19-2021 9:14 PM
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10-19-2021 1:14 PM


Gayle Quinnell was the "racist" supporter of McCain.
I just did a google search and things got interesting, and quite disturbing.
It seems that the racist mindset, in our country, has seen the 2008 cry of Colin Powell get drowned out.
And from complementary media commentary, on the October 2008 Minnesota campaign event, IN 2018!
Yes, 2018!
It seems that McCain still is seen as standing up against his racist supporter.
McCain knew the context was 100% about whether Obama was ethic Arab, which the 75 year old Quinnell felt was a very bad thing. (The Arab accusation predated the Birther birth) (As if it is a bad thing to be ethnic Arab).
I just read a full quote of McCains response. He started by saying "No ma'am. He is a good, decent family man" and it ended with "he's not [an Arab]".
A genuine juxtaposition from a man hell bent on his "bombs, bombs, bombs away" policy in the Middle East. The goal of successful political marketing of such a policy requires one to have an electorate which see Arabs, generally, as quite bad people who are sympathetic to terrorists.
How racist McCain truely is, is something that only a mind reader could know. He said something racist. I dont know what his internal reasoning is. He might simply have not bothered to temper his raw juxtaposition, due to the fact that Arabs are thg he least popular ethnic group in the American white imagination. And it was almost a horrifically mad racist mindset 13 years ago, in 2008.
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Message 1017 of 1325 (888895)
10-19-2021 9:25 PM
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10-19-2021 12:37 PM


Re: Colin Powell called out McCain for not challenging the anti Arab sentiments of suppo
He defended Obama by throwing ethnic Arabs under the bus. Aside from the small number of refugees, you see very little allowance for Middle Eastern immigration to the United States.
Obama, in 2015 (?) called the nation "disgraceful", for not wanting Syrian Muslim refugees to reside in the United States (polls
showed 63% American public opposition). Loudly.
Colin Powell really saw the damage McCain was inflicting (present and future) for not responding to racist supporters with "the correct answer".
Powell was loud, stern, and decisive in his denunciation of McCain's response to, then 75 year old, Gayle Quinnell.
Watch the Meet The Press 2008 Colin Powell endorcement of Barak Obama.
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Message 1023 of 1325 (889593)
12-05-2021 10:16 PM
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12-05-2021 2:23 PM


Re: Bob Dole, 98
He confused many, in 2013, when he said Ronald Reagan would not be welcome in today's Republican party.
It was no doubt, said with the immigration issue in mind.
(Republicans would later turn against NAFTA, the idea for which historical accounts tend to trace - ultimately - back to campaign proposals of Ronald Reagan during the 1980 race)
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Message 1033 of 1325 (890129)
12-26-2021 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1032 by ramoss
12-26-2021 9:14 AM


Re: Desmon Tutu
He made some famous comments many decades ago that I will never forget.
He said that if anybody could convince him that the Bible taught racism & segregation, then he would cut his Bible in half.
He said man can use a sword to either cut bread or cut his fellow mans arm off ( as in fighting a war, which was historically a sword battle)

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