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Author Topic:   Invention, is it a possiblity & the technological future
macaroniandcheese 
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Message 16 of 21 (188823)
02-26-2005 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Pradu
02-26-2005 12:24 PM


the loss of subtlety in human experience would be a great tragedy.

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Trae
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Message 17 of 21 (189936)
03-03-2005 11:31 PM
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02-25-2005 11:34 AM


I believe the path of technology and lust for power will eventually lead us to cybernetics and or AI systems.
I think Kurzweil has a very reasonable take on how humans and technology will interact for the next 100ish years.
Kurzweil
My understanding is that Kurzweil’s predictions rely on some technology arising which will continue the rate of computer CPU and computer memory for a good part of the first half of this century. Specifically, since it is believed that we will reach the limits of silicon miniaturization in the near future some technology would have to arise to take it place. Seems he has several outs, nanotech, optical, quantum, and true parallel-processing.
If you buy into the above, then it would seem that in a few decades we will be able to make computers with the equivalent processing power of a human brain.
Now, before someone points out that a fast powerful computer does not mean it can hold a brain, I agree. Still, a first step is having a container large enough to hold the data of a human brain.
Since I don’t want to write a few dozen paragraphs, let’s also accept for now that the brain’s storage and processing methods are discovered and understood.
The proposed technology is considerably faster then the chemical processing of the brain (intuitive leaps may even be faster should quantum processing bear out). In the sense that this speed would allow them more relativistic time to solve a problem, we can concede that these new brains would be smarter. Presumably, they would be able to access the internet faster and likely would have better means to filter the data.
Seems to me that by the end of the century we have a new dominate species on the planet.
I simply don’t think that any societal pressures are going to sufficiently outweigh the potential gains (immortality for the rich, incredible power for government and business).

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Message 18 of 21 (189945)
03-04-2005 12:19 AM
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03-03-2005 11:31 PM


I'd happily become cyborg, on the inside that is, Perhaps that would mean, slower aging rates, longer life spans and faster technological breakthroughs. That sounds good to me, what I was afraid of was technology just shaping our environment and keeping us from what I will refer to as "real interaction." This idea actually shapes ourselves within techonlogy, hope it comes soon.
don't take this reply too seriously (unless of course it sounds good, in which case I truly meant it), came down with a very bad case of the flu and these drugs they gave me are very strong.

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contracycle
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Message 19 of 21 (189979)
03-04-2005 5:36 AM


Yes; this is the path we are on. I would be surprised to find that homo sapiens still existend in its present form in as little as a hudred years. even if I'm over-estimating the pace of change, I think we can be confident that HomSap will be radically different in 1000 years, and thats a eyeblink in geological time.

  
Trae
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Message 20 of 21 (190397)
03-07-2005 12:46 AM
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03-04-2005 12:19 AM


A technological key is if the entirety of the human mind can be replicated within a technological entity.
If it turns out that that isn’t possible, or isn’t possible for a long time, then it would make sense to focus on cybernetic implants. If it turns out that it is possible, then in many ways a living mind becomes a handicap. Seems the desire will be to dump human bodies, unless the bodies provide something the AI equivalents cannot.
My interest is how will religions cope with AIs based on human minds. If a human mind is fully downloaded into a AI device, how then will they handle the question of a soul?

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PerfectDeath
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Message 21 of 21 (190546)
03-07-2005 9:58 PM


technolegy allows us to expand out knowledge, because befor we could not see or here things that were there but then we now that we have developed machines that enable us to see and hear those things we can prove it's existance.
Science can answer everything, we are just too stupid to figure things out.

  
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