Bigfoot

No worry about misleading. I was just curious, as it sounded like your experience with carnivore remains matched my own.Thanks for the clarification.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

I'll keep that in mind. Are there vultures in the States? I thought they were only african birds. But nevertheless any bird of prey would do. I doubt that hawks and eagles are above scvenging. No kidding lol. That is the point;such areas are perfect for hiding wildlife and unknown creatures. It was only a few years ago that several species of monkey were "discovered" in the Rain forests of south America. Spy satellites can be useful for disproving some cryptid accounts (Living mammoths in Siberia), but there are still areas of the world where they still cannot penetrate (and of course some footage for national security reasons remains classified, and might actually contain images of a sasquatch or other cryptids. Al gore had to convince the Navy to lend him some evidence they accumulated during the cold war that inadvertenly showed evidence of Global warming. See his "an Inconvenient truth").And when it comes to the Oceans, sattelites are not going to fair well in proving nor disproving cryptids. New species of animals are discovered there everyday. If you want to find numerous new species of animals, some of them large, search the seas. Legends and accounts of Gorillas were known to western science for years before Gorillas where shown to exist. Obviously some of those hunters/missionaries/explorers must have heard at least something about them for the western world to doubt there existence until proven in the 1800's. Same goes for the Mountain Gorilla as a subspecies. Native accounts of Sasquatch have been treated with the same skepticism. Along with several (if not all) of the others i've mentioned (replace "Natives" with "sailors" when it comes to sea creatures, ie giant squid).Still, in order to prove Sasquatch we need remains; dead body.There was one skull cap called "The Minaret Skull" that was said to have been from a sasquatch, but that peice of evdence was highly controversial and i believe later lost. And the biggest evidence against a Sasquatch is the fact that they have not become roadkill like Grizzlies and other wild animals. Yet the unidentifiable hairs, tracks with Dermal ridges and signs of pliableness, butt prints (Snicker), body prints, Native traditions, among other evidences leads me to conclude that there is a large non-human primate living in the pacific northwest. As for the eastern sightings, a lot of those seem to be beyond the scope of normal science and are possibly beyond natural scrutiny.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

No problemo. You've written some good insights about your forays of the bush.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

The famous Patterson film is one of two relatively convincing pieces of footage that lends any credence to Sasquatch in my mind. Amid a myriad of cheap hoaxes, this, along with one other film taken in, I believe 1992, of two alleged bigfoot, are the only films that have even a spark of authenticity.For one thing, the Patterson film was shot in 1967. It would have been far more difficult to hoax it than it would today. You can actually see the flexing musculature of what appears to be a female sasquatch in the Patterson film, particularly in the buttocks and upper thigh region. That would be very difficult to hoax today, let alone in 1967.However, it is certainly not impossible. It is also believed that as of 1962, Patterson had become infatuated by the legend of Bigfoot prior to the alleged discovery. This of course makes it less believable. Regardless, Patterson did go to the grave insisting that it was not a hoax. The other expeditionary man, Gimlin, has also claimed that he is in no way lying. He does, however, concede that he may have been duped by Patterson in lieu of his increasing obsession with the creatures.By way of the comparison of various audio clips taken over the years, these are the only semi convincing sounds reputed to come from Sasquatch.Another from Klamath Falls, OregonSnohomish, WashingtonEverything else I've ever seen or heard is either too grainy, too far away, inconclusive, or an obvious hoax. These are about the only things that make me question the veracity.Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : typo

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“Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito"

supposedly. Searching For Bigfoot (here is the photo)And I guess the physical evidence will be given today.man I hope this is legit.

Apparently this is yet another hoax, admitted by the bigfoot "researchers." They admitted to it and posted it on Youtube. Who is persisting with this and perpetuating the hoax is a No webpage found at provided URL: Carmine Biscardi, who has been described by more reputable Sasquatch investigators as:"the press attention attracted notorious hoaxer Carmine Thomas Biscardi. Biscardi has been pushing hoaxed bigfoot evidence for several years now, and he seems to pop up wherever the bigfoot subject is getting local press attention -- a sort of Reverend Al Sharpton of the bigfoot world. But unlike Sharpton, who has become a respectable defender of minority rights, Biscardi's ploys have won him the well-deserved reputation of a charlatan, a parasite, a hoaxer, and a scam artist." BFRODon't get your hopes up. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : edit to addEdited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : Edit to add url

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“Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito"

they are never up, until we get good physical evidence.still it would have been really cool to have a body.

The dental arch that shown in the photograph is curved, much like a human's.The other primates have a more squared dental arch, with the front being flatter and flanked by two large canines.This "bigfoot" seems to have dentition much more human than any of the other primates.Now that's pretty suspicious right there!

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

This is the only alleged sasquatch remains that looks even remotely realistic. (No, this is not the picture of the hoax in Georgia). Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : No reason given.Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : No reason given.Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : Something wrong with the url

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“Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito"

When i first heard this story, i prayed to God that it was legit. After learning more about it, i quickly felt like it was very likely a hoax. I read statements from Loren Coleman and Jeff Meldrum that seemed to cast a big doubt upon the so-called find and Biscardi, the latter i have never heard of nor found in any of my cryptozoology/unexplained books (i have several at home).The body seems similar to a huge sasquatch costume online for sure, though if it is they made the face blackened, to make it seem i guess like areal corpse or to distinguish it from the suit to show some sort of authenticity.I just watched the press conference online; i couldn't hear the questions, but the answers intrigued me a bit. It smells fishy, and the idea that a bigfoot hoazer would actually be associated with ultimate proof of sasquatch is mind boggling, yet not impossible.If this is a hoax (very likely), it will just add further ridicule to the entire search (a ridicule.harsh sketicism you can find almost everywhere you look, from the net to your neighbor). The hoax would not deter from the facts showing that Bigfoot is possible (Meldrum's "Sasquatch; legend meets science" has a good amount of evidence), but it would make such evidence harder to put forth to the media. I wonder if there are professional Bigfoot hoaxers hired by logging interests to further cast doubt on the legend, so that they wont have to one day find their jobs a lot harder due to an newely discovered, endangered forest ape, and if this Bascardi might be one of them. I wont make accusations or anything, but that might coe up if this proves to be another hoax.Several things do stick out though; the fact that it is found in georgia (eastern US Bigfoot sightings and NAPE (north American ape) sightings are known, and even eastern cnadian bigfoot are not unheard of (Ontario's "old Yellow Top"), the idea of finding one in Georgia causes me to raise a brow. Plus it does not look like (in the face at least, fro what we can see) the Patterson sasquatch (called "Patty"). This could be due to differences in population or genetic background, different species or even the prospect that the bigfoot is a NAPE and not bigfoot proper (Napes are supposed to be more "ape-like", ie they sometimes walk on their knuckles and have footprints with aposable big toes, etc). Of course, the above could also indicate a hoax (if it doesn't lok like a duck, it just might not be one...hehehehe).I truly hope that this is the smoking gun, but i'll await further investigation. At the conference the youtube hoax and brother-mascarading-as-scientist videos are explained, but i dont think that "having fun with it" and other reasons they gave are really likely. I'm holding out on this one.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

This is an interview scientific American had with Jeff Meldrum about this Bigfoot body affair. You'll have your skepticism further reinforced by it.We're Sorry - Scientific American

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

In the news conference, there was speculation as to what killed the "creature". On of the original "discoverers" insisted that they would know when an autosy was preformed. There could be numerous reasons why it was killed (assuming it is legit), including disease, wounds recieved in a scuffle with another sasquatch, old age, etc. I could peopose a theory that it may have come into conflict with a Blackbear and was killed by it. They live in the region, and if they get up to 400-500 lbs there, it could be potentially powerful enough to kill a similar-sized ape in a brawl. But of course Black bears are usually skittish, and are likely to run from something as large and menancing as a Sasquatch (like they do at times when confronted by cougars and even domestic housecats; compared to these two animals, Black bears have greater size and brawn (both relative and absolute in the latter), but they are not as agressive as Grizzlies).Still, that possibility should not be ruled out. In The book "Abominable Snowmen: Legend come to life" Ivan T. Sanderson records an eyewitness account of a Sasquatch battling a large bear(Black bear, since the last California Grizzly was killed in 1922, while this incident happened in 1936) in northern California, though in this case the bear died of strangulation atfer a long period of scrapping (see "Abominable Snowmen, Legend come to life, chapter 4, page 72 (other editions might vary with page number), and "The Grizzly Almanac" by Robert Busch, page 115). According to the Yokuts Indians, Sasquatch (called by them "Hairy Man") was said to prey on Grizzlies ("Sasquatch: legend meets science", page 80-81, complete with sketch of old Yokuts Rock art depicting Hairy Man). The last bit of evidence seems to go against the supposed Bigfoot find (said to have be vegetarian, yet the press conference showed it had Opossum DNA, supposidly due to being eaten by the "Georgia Gorilla")but then again Gorillas were thought to be terribly violent creatures until more was learned about them, practical Bigfoot-like creature in its own right.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

The top video seems to look like a certain chimpanzee that made headlines several years ago. It was a a captive chimp that walked uprigt and looked eerily "human-like". Some thought it was a missing link or somewhat human, but i believe he was taught to walk upright by his former owner, who i believe was a circus worer. I do not remember the name of the chimp, but i think it was something like "Oscar" or "Otis".The second video is too fuzzy to tell what the figure was; it could have been a bigfoot or a man in an ape suit, or maybe just a guy (possibly a hunter) walking in the woods. It seems to be muscular, and i thought of the australiopithecines for some reason when i watched it. Hopefully I spelt "Australiopithecines" right. Still intriguing nevertheless, and the trip camera is one of the best tools a cryto-zoologist can use to gather evidence of unknown animals. They use such technology a lot on Monsterquest.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

This article gives more on the "Minaret skull" which is considered by some to be a good canidate for physical Bigfoot remains, yet is seemingly unattainable due to academic red-tape at the university were it likely resides to this day:http://www.bfro.net/REF/THEORIES/MJM/minaret.htm

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4