Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,869 Year: 4,126/9,624 Month: 997/974 Week: 324/286 Day: 45/40 Hour: 4/7


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Why do unbelievers hate christians most?
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 91 of 118 (132961)
08-11-2004 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dan Carroll
08-11-2004 3:46 PM


I think that the Bible, read as non-fiction, is ridiculous
And I'm pretty disgusted by the mass actions of Christians down the years,
If you'd have left these statements out, I would believe you. But I'm afraid they paint the picture I already had in my mind.
I'm pretty disgusted by the actions of atheists down the years. And the actions of Muslims in the present age. Ofcourse, - I could be logical and simply attribute all of these actions to man.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 90 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-11-2004 3:46 PM Dan Carroll has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 93 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 10:51 AM mike the wiz has not replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 18348
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
Member Rating: 1.0


Message 92 of 118 (133078)
08-12-2004 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dan Carroll
08-11-2004 3:46 PM


COFFEE HOUSE BRAWL
Mike, calm down! Go read your Bible. Dan! Young man, why are you always trying to make this classroom laugh? Give Mike back his ark! Mike, give Dan his dinosaur and BOTH of you go sit in the corner!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 90 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-11-2004 3:46 PM Dan Carroll has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 94 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 10:54 AM Phat has not replied

  
Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 93 of 118 (133167)
08-12-2004 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by mike the wiz
08-11-2004 6:58 PM


If you'd have left these statements out, I would believe you. But I'm afraid they paint the picture I already had in my mind.
Disgusted by mass actions of Christians: If I point out that the Spanish Inquisition happened, and register my disgust, obviously I hate all Christians.
Bible as non-fiction is ridiculous: If I don't share Mike's beliefs, clearly I hate all Christians.
I think it's ridiculous to eschew electricity and buttons, as well. Does that mean I hate the Amish? See, clearly you know what I hate better than I do, so I'm hoping you can clue me in.
I'm pretty disgusted by the actions of atheists down the years.
Yeah, some atheists have done shitty things. I don't recall a case where they've done it in the name of atheism, or as a mass movement devoted to promoting their particular brand of atheism, but no two ways about it... there have been some shitty atheists.
Your point being?
And the actions of Muslims in the present age.
Yeah, I'm with you there. I'm pretty much disgusted by the mass actions of most organized religions at some point in history, when you get down to it.
Ofcourse, - I could be logical and simply attribute all of these actions to man.
Gee, Mike... as an atheist, what else would I be attributing it to?
We're reaching the gist of it, now... atheist, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, what have you... pretty much everybody's a person capable of doing either shitty or wonderful things. Worshipping a plank of wood with a guy nailed to it leaves you just as ready to do shitty things as anybody else.
You feel Christians are singled out? TS. Christianity has been pretty much the most powerful group in the western world for quite some time now, and has had the most opportunity to do really shitty things. And in a lot of ways, they've made the most of that opportunity. They're going to be on the mind of a lot of people, and their shitty actions are probably going to come up quite frequently. I understand that you've got the same plank-fixation that the shitty people do or did, but that's no reason to whitewash it by acting like people who point out the shitty things just hate Christians. And frankly, it's does a disservice to the guy nailed to the plank.

"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

This message is a reply to:
 Message 91 by mike the wiz, posted 08-11-2004 6:58 PM mike the wiz has not replied

  
Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 94 of 118 (133169)
08-12-2004 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by Phat
08-12-2004 1:22 AM


Re: COFFEE HOUSE BRAWL
Dan! Young man, why are you always trying to make this classroom laugh?
Practicing for my death. I wanna go out on a one-liner, like Wilde.

"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

This message is a reply to:
 Message 92 by Phat, posted 08-12-2004 1:22 AM Phat has not replied

  
PecosGeorge
Member (Idle past 6900 days)
Posts: 863
From: Texas
Joined: 04-09-2004


Message 95 of 118 (133237)
08-12-2004 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by mike the wiz
08-10-2004 4:01 PM


The failure lies in those who practice it. There is nothing wrong with the concept. The failure of the practitioners is massive and goes without saying that this applies to things other than Christianity.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 73 by mike the wiz, posted 08-10-2004 4:01 PM mike the wiz has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 96 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 2:14 PM PecosGeorge has not replied

  
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 96 of 118 (133276)
08-12-2004 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by PecosGeorge
08-12-2004 1:14 PM


Exactly!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 95 by PecosGeorge, posted 08-12-2004 1:14 PM PecosGeorge has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 97 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 2:58 PM mike the wiz has replied

  
Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 97 of 118 (133301)
08-12-2004 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by mike the wiz
08-12-2004 2:14 PM


Given your screaming for banishment on another thread, can I assume you don't plan on responding?
If not, I really hope you don't start up with this "why do you people hate Christians" crap again. I'm not naive enough to expect an apology for accusations of hatred lobbed at me, but a basic level of honesty in debating would be nice.

"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

This message is a reply to:
 Message 96 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 2:14 PM mike the wiz has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 98 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 3:04 PM Dan Carroll has replied

  
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 98 of 118 (133305)
08-12-2004 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Dan Carroll
08-12-2004 2:58 PM


Hey come one - didn't I say something about you delighting in my death?
Come on, admitt it - you want an apology aswell. Honesty in debating though? I think I'm okay, I mean, I don't think I'm dishonest. Maybe a bit angered without reason.
But hey - sorry if I've offended you. I still think you're a baba. I still love you even if you are against me.
Phatboy has spanked me in the other thread for giving the Gospel according to wiz - and rightfully so. So I hope to be banned shortly.
PS - I hope you enjoyed your rant.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 97 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 2:58 PM Dan Carroll has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 99 by Brad McFall, posted 08-12-2004 3:08 PM mike the wiz has replied
 Message 101 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 3:55 PM mike the wiz has replied

  
Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5060 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 99 of 118 (133308)
08-12-2004 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by mike the wiz
08-12-2004 3:04 PM


I sinned too. I dont know how I can be lied to so eaisly.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 98 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 3:04 PM mike the wiz has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 100 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 3:12 PM Brad McFall has replied

  
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 100 of 118 (133310)
08-12-2004 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Brad McFall
08-12-2004 3:08 PM


What did you do Brad?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 99 by Brad McFall, posted 08-12-2004 3:08 PM Brad McFall has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 114 by Brad McFall, posted 08-13-2004 1:51 PM mike the wiz has not replied

  
Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 101 of 118 (133318)
08-12-2004 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by mike the wiz
08-12-2004 3:04 PM


You know, at a certain point it's honestly hard to tell if you're intentionally being an ass, or if you're just an idiot.
Fuck it. Have fun jerking off.

"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

This message is a reply to:
 Message 98 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 3:04 PM mike the wiz has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 102 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 5:14 PM Dan Carroll has not replied
 Message 103 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 5:47 PM Dan Carroll has replied

  
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 102 of 118 (133336)
08-12-2004 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Dan Carroll
08-12-2004 3:55 PM


it's honestly hard to tell if you're intentionally being an ass, or if you're just an idiot.
What, you deduce that from me saying that I am sorry, even though I don't quite know what I have done?
Wow! What insight you have. However, I think the problem lies at your door Dushku boy.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 101 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 3:55 PM Dan Carroll has not replied

  
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 103 of 118 (133346)
08-12-2004 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Dan Carroll
08-12-2004 3:55 PM


What's the matter boy? Cat got your tongue? Haven't the bottle to call me anything else? All you can do is make foul words aimed at my matrix. It's okay though - I raised shields because desavik was right. She has the com because I already "protected" it. If I was foolish enough to say "sorry" to an ingrate then I'll just INfiltrate my own rate of ratio play = game! Even this was unforseen from you. So my argument stands - that you argue with me cos you're against me. That's the premise spybot hammer coQ. I'm afraid you have become a f**wad cos it's all too easy to be brave on the keyboard. Didn't you warn yourself of this even yourself. I suggest you fold back time and re-render your own advice,.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 101 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 3:55 PM Dan Carroll has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 104 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 5:52 PM mike the wiz has replied

  
Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 104 of 118 (133347)
08-12-2004 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by mike the wiz
08-12-2004 5:47 PM


As I said, Mike, you've made it clear (and way clearer with this last little diatribe) that your interest is in jerking off, not discussion.
At a certain point I realized that if I was going to stand in front of a guy who was spanking it like a wild monkey, I had only myself to blame for getting his jizz on my face.
So like I said, have fun.

"Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine, it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read, 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."
-Rob Grant and Doug Naylor

This message is a reply to:
 Message 103 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 5:47 PM mike the wiz has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 105 by mike the wiz, posted 08-12-2004 5:58 PM Dan Carroll has not replied

  
mike the wiz
Member
Posts: 4755
From: u.k
Joined: 05-24-2003


Message 105 of 118 (133348)
08-12-2004 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Dan Carroll
08-12-2004 5:52 PM


Hey - don't "PAY" when you can watch from the blocks.
There's a ulterior motive to my babble matrix increasing the overflow of recess on my chest less a few times a dime, reaching fewer admins needs some more bad behaviour. But I'm glad you have ceased to render me f' this and f' that.
At a certain point I realized that if I was going to stand in front of a guy who was spanking it like a wild monkey, I had only myself to blame for getting his jizz on my face.
Spanking a monkey eh? Well I see this is a chance for you to let "go" of some frustration I hav corzed. If you like it is not my aim to aim at YOU but rather to relax a while while comtemplating an invisible inflatable Dushku spankatho happening at your place. If it's any consolation I derived some convo seriouso from our exchange.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 104 by Dan Carroll, posted 08-12-2004 5:52 PM Dan Carroll has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 112 by Phat, posted 08-13-2004 2:31 AM mike the wiz has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024