Just What is (and what is wrong with) Political Correctness?

The article read just like a rant by General Jack D Ripper, so absurd you question if should be on The Onion. I like the bit about how PC makes groups that are good, like homosexuals - it was a particularly amusing bit of propaganda.Anyway the quote above is a good one for EvC forum I thought. Mr Lind is strongly against criticizing a theory without presenting an alternative. I'm fairly happy to agree with him on that - I wonder if the Creos here do?

Out of 65 in the whole list. The word "THE" is more common, so why not focus on that being a communist cover word?Your logic is stunning.Because some communists groups use the word "progressive" in their title means that all groups that use the word "progressive" are communistsLike the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada
Progressive Conservative Party of Canada - WikipediaEnjoy.

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It isn't made-up logic RAZD, it's been attested by many that the term was a conscious screen to prevent people from knowing the source of the agenda. I think I may first have run across it in Horowitz's bio but I don't remember for sure. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I wonder if you or any here have read anything in Cultural Marxism? Read any Marxist feminism? Read any Critical Theory? Read Marcuse, Adorno, Fromm, W Reich, N O Brown, or the books about the Frankfurt School by Martin Jay or Russell Jacoby?As for an alternative creationist theory, what a strange idea that that is lacking in our arguments here. One thing we do have is an alternative, and we are very insistent on it, only you guys don't like it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So you agree that the use of the term in the Progressive Conservative Party is a screen for their secret communist agendaThanks.

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I guess you didn't really read that post you answered, where I said that besides the uses of the term as a deception, it is also used innocently by other groups. That doesn't stop it from being a specifically chosen term for the purpose of deception.

So if it is used by a conservative group it is an "innocent" usageBut if it is used by any liberal group then it is a cover for their being a communist group.Still looks like the fallacies of poor silogism of theSome {A} is {B}
Therefore all {B} is {A}Type, coupled by equivocation for every time it is used by a conservative group.But hey, it's your party.Enjoy.

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And yet, when pressed for specifics oft is the cry 'we don't need an alternative to show evolution is unscientific!' and upon being pressed the cry becomes 'god did it'. I'm sure you've seen it, I expect you'll call those that engage in it...and I'm not talking about broad concepts, I'm talking about the little details. Of course its by the by, but we both know now that not presenting an alternative is bad form.As for cultural Marxism, I haven't read a great deal about it. If it is as insane as the essay you presented then I don't want to subject myself to it. Any practical, modern examples that this is what PC is all about?You have accused me of being PC, yet I despise femi-nazis (I have no problem with feminism in the sense of women having equal pay for equal work etc), I can think of several gay people I don't like and who aren't 'good'. The idea that homosexuals are inherently good in PC-land is a pile of crap. In PC-land homosexuals are not inherently bad, which is a world of difference.

I guess you aren't interested in the facts, but when someone tells you that a term has a specific meaning in a specific historical context, which information comes from people who have occupied that context, as Horowitz did, you just sound daffy shutting your ears to it and making up stuff. Other uses of the word are simply irrelevant. Anybody can use the word. But that does not stop it from having the specific meaning in the specific context I'm talking about.

More specifically, 'special pleading'.

Oddly enough I suppose, I follow very few of the creationist science threads. Many of them I simply can't follow. I can't follow the quantum theory stuff for instance. I get lost in the whale fossil stuff. I don't know where the "God did it" idea comes in or why people claim it is so common a creationist slogan. My impression is that most of us try to stick to the scientific particulars, however little of it we grasp, and only refer to the Bible as the source of the basic scenario. Well, but I think that's a fair answer. There's nothing logically wrong with criticzing something. That could conceivably in fact motivate people to come up with an alternative. Better you scientists do it than we unscientific creationists.But it's not the same situation as with Critical Theory where the criticism really does dismantle the culture and that's the objective. Come to think of it, I'm surprised there is a complaint that there is no alternative, because they do have this alternative: The PC version of liberalism. That's the objective of it all. ????? Actually I haven't seen it, I only see us accused of it. Dont' know what you mean by little details. Creationists have an alternative only it's not worked out in the specifics. That's why we're here fooling around with it.I don't remember Lind saying homosexuals are good in PC land. I guess I'll have to reread the essay. I just thought the idea is that all these "liberation" movements (exploitations and twistings of the civil rights movements) have an identifiable source in cultural Marxism.I try to label specific ideas as PC rather than people, but I may err in that.

isnt "Progressive Conservative" a oxymoron ???

No student will ever know my political beliefs (to the extent that I have any) nor my basic philosophical beliefs. I myself consider that improper in a classroom.Most of the other teachers appear to be Democrats. The young ones, as is normal, tend to be more extreme. There's been some talk lately about "Neo-Fascists" in reference to the Government. I stay away from all this, leading my quiet life of indifference to public affairs.

Most of what is loosely labelled as "literary criticism" in the last 30 years or so has a Leftist slant. Some of it is extreme.Pretentious stuff. It bores me no end.

Good morning, Faith. All your opponents are always mindless knee-jerking commies, aren't they? Everybody is clueless but Faith. I'll look at your links later.But that particular nag is not my hobby-horse. It was your contention that Whorowitz also exposed right wing violations in the classroom, not mine--I was explicitly skeptical of your claim.Nice try, but even while rubbing sleep from my eyes, I won't fall for that kind of rhetorical jujitsu.It was your contention--you support it. What were you saying in the all-USA-all-the-time 1950s that led to your intellectual freedom being compromised by a left wing high school teacher? I'm fascinated.

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