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robinrohan Inactive Member |
If you would like to SLEEP with her, I have a suggestion.
Keep in mind the following Sexual Law: Women are much better at seducing men than men are at seducing women. Ignore her (or pretend to ignore her) as a sexual object. Treat her as though you are addressing her MIND only. This means not glancing at her body, etc. If you do this consistently, and she is the least bit attracted to you, she will eventually seduce you. This method works like a charm.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
By all means, treat her like an alien species that needs to be conquered through trickery.
Oy. People, honestly. You like someone in a sexy way? Talk to them like you would anyone else. If there's enough of a two-way click there for something more to happen, it'll happen pretty naturally. If it doesn't, direct your attentions elsewhere. Repeat as necessary. "Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown On a backwards river, infidels shiver In the stench of belief And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late I'm over the rails and out of the race The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw ringing in my ears" -Beck
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 499 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
If you ever want to seduce a guy, just ask me
Edit by PB This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 04-09-2005 12:02 PM
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll writes: By all means, treat her like an alien species that needs to be conquered through trickery. To call it "trickery" is to put an ugly spin on what really amounts to being a gentleman. Now if you took this method a further step, it could be called trickery. I knew this guy once who had a very successful sexual career by convincing one beautiful woman after another that he was a virgin.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
To call it "trickery" is to put an ugly spin on what really amounts to being a gentleman. It was more a general statement to the thread. Your post happened to be the medium for it. But damn... in fairness, you just said that if his only goal was to sleep with her, he should pretend that his only interest was in her mind. On what planet is that being a gentleman?
I knew this guy once who had a very successful sexual career by convincing one beautiful woman after another that he was a virgin. Seems kinda pathetic to me. What kinda sad bastard has to pretend to be something he's not to get laid? No offense if he's a friend of yours, but damn. "Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown On a backwards river, infidels shiver In the stench of belief And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late I'm over the rails and out of the race The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw ringing in my ears" -Beck
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll writes: But damn... in fairness, you just said that if his only goal was to sleep with her, he should pretend that his only interest was in her mind. On what planet is that being a gentleman? I didn't say that his only goal had to be to sleep with her. After all, he said he loved her so presumably that is not his only goal. But I assume that such an eventuality would be in the back of his mind, and if such an event transpired it could lead to love. On this planet, I believe it is gentlemanly not to be ogling a woman even if we find her excessively attractive (which is what I advised). But this whole strain of advice about "being oneself" and "just be honest" and so on is an overly-simplistic answer. The whole question of "honesty" in this area is very complicated.
Dan Carroll writes: What kinda sad bastard has to pretend to be something he's not to get laid? We all do some pretending, but with this guy it was an amusing game.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6895 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: you didn't say where you are when you do all that bumping. you can tell her that no apology is needed and that you enjoy the bumping and that she can make up for the 'accidents' and you will accept her apology if she goes for a burger with you, movies, or whatever. Maybe she is bumping into you on purpose? I would do that to get someone's attention.Anyways, the bumping is the key here. Use it to your advantage. There is also no shame in telling someone you have feelings. Good luck to you.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6895 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: This becomes highly doubtful after the fourth grade.
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Hangdawg13 Member (Idle past 773 days) Posts: 1189 From: Texas Joined: |
HOW DO I GET THE GIRL I LOVE INTO LIKING ME??? Hellifino... Try Shakespeare's 18th sonnet, say something beautiful about her eyes... Be a TRUE friend to her... etc. ...The girl I like has a boyfriend who is also my friend... so I think I'm in a worse position than you...
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
It's hopeless. There's no way to get a girl to like you.
The best you can do is be in a position where she can get to know you. Obviously she can't like you if she doesn't know you. But if she gets to know you and still doesn't love you, it's hopeless. It sucks, but well, that's sexual selection for you. But for God's sake, don't bother with subterfuge and trickery. You know what women want? Men to act like adults. If you want to get to know her, say you do, and then do. There's no semaphore or sign language that's going to communicate your intentions short of you just coming out and saying it. You know? This message has been edited by crashfrog, 02-01-2005 01:52 AM
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.4 |
Keep in mind the following Sexual Law: Women are much better at seducing men than men are at seducing women. I don't believe that's true at all. It's more than men are, in general, easier to seduce. As one of my friends put it: men, to a good first approximation, want to sleep with all women (above and below certain age thresholds, obviously) so the most attractive quality a woman can have is willingness. I echo earlier comments: women are not an alien species. Trickery and deception may work on occasion, but will fail miserably when you actually want something more than a quick fumble learning to rely on them is both unnessecary and ultimately self-defeating.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Holmes writes: Trickery and deception may work on occasion I'm not talking about "trickery and deception." My point is that what constitutes "honesty" in any sort of relationship, sexual or otherwise, but especially sexual, is by no means simple. What might seem like "subterfuge" might actually be a kind of honesty, and what seems like upfront bluntness might actually be "trickery."
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.4 |
Holmes writes: Trickery and deception may work on occasion Holmes wrote no such thing, I did.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Oh sorry, Mr. Jack.
But my point is it all depends on whether you have somebody's best interests at heart. If you do, it might very well be necessary to act in such a way that will seem like subterfuge. That is to say, it will seem like subterfuge to others but not to the potential mate--after awhile. The person I mentioned who went around trying to convince women he was a virgin was obviously jaded. I just brought it up as a comment on sexual psychology.
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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Sure there are, you just don't happen to know people like that. Pretty much all of my friends in college were exactly like me in this regard. ...of course, you might have known every single person in your high school and college, but I doubt it.
quote: Do you know every single girl in your high school well enough so that they tell you everything?
Perhaps you are confusing "confidence" with "arrogance". quote: Or just smart girls with some self-respect and confidence.
quote: Naw, that's not true. Sometimes it is, but mostly not. At least with smart girls. Arragance is swaggering disregard for other people. Confidence is kind consideration of other people and not caring if your buddies think you are a dork.
quote: The smart girls know the difference from the very begining, trust me.All my friends were just like me. There were plenty of us, not getting any attention from the boys until we got into college, because so few of them had enough confidence in middle and high school to be confident instead of arrogant. I could always tell the difference, but maybe the women you have known aren't smart or experienced enough to have figured it out yet. quote: Oh? You're a mind reader now and know what the thoughts are of women you've never talked to?
...but behaving like an asshole when one is in the presence of people who are actually, genuinely confident, or people smart and perceptive enough to tell the difference sticks out like a sore thumb. quote: The smart ones can, and there are more of us than you think.
quote: Why?
Believe me, I can tell an actually confident man from an insecure arrogant poseur in the first 10 minutes of talking to him. quote: But I WAS one of them, and YOU were not, correct? I had a bunch of friends who were just like me in high school. Maybe you don't tend to make friends with the nerds and smart girls?
Being nice takes a long time to attract women? Perhaps you are confusing "being nice" with "being timid". quote: Huh, that's news to me, being a former high-school girl and freinds with lots of other girls in high school. We all liked boys who were nice. Not timid, but personable, kind, and polite.
quote: Not for smart adults, and there are a few of those around.
quote: So, let me get this straight. In your mind, it is impossible for a boy to be both confident and nice to other people. Interesting.
quote: ...and I would say that you are not accurate here. Plenty can.
Ah, but are the girls you "get" with that first method worth having? quote: Again, the girls who do not make the mistake in the first place, or never get that far because they aren't persued by the arrogant boys (and wouldn't want that type if they were), aren't crying on your shoulder.
Is is all just a game of "getting" as many as possible with no regard for friendship, meeting each other on an intellectual or emotional level? quote: Every single one of my friends in high school became very good friends with the boys who eventually became their steady boyfriend.
quote: No, you just don't seem to know any. There are plenty.
So why waste your time with the immature idiot girls? I didn't waste my time on the immature, idiot arrogant boys. quote: Not really. One of them treats other people with respect and kindness and has a independent sense of self and the other doesn't and is more concerned with himself and what his buddies think.
quote: Like I said, there is a difference between being nice and being timid. If he never gets up the courage to ask her out, then he is too timid and that is unattractive. Being kind and confident at the same time is very, very attractive. You know, like Mortenson's Aragorn in LOTR, and Gibson's William Wallace in Braveheart. Neither one of them were arrogant, but they were confident.
quote: She isn't interested in a timid mouse who only hopes about her but never DOES anything about it. He doesn't have to be arrogant, just confident.
quote: You know, I'd like to know how many high school girls you actually know. How many nerd or ignored girls do you know?
Would have worked for me in high school. quote: No, not really. Only if they seemed kind to other people and didn't display arrogance. My biggest crushes were on nerdy, funny boys who were smart. I married one.
Plenty have, but they are the ones being ignored by the jocks, so none of the nerd boys (who take their cues on who to get crushes on from the jocks) think they are worth asking out. quote: So, do you only talk to the popular girls? Do you even know if the nerdy ignored girls give a rat's ass about the arrogant jocks?
quote: You sound like you are limiting your data to a very limited group and are wrongly extrapolating to other groups.
So, do you suggest that he hit her over the head with a club and drag her to a movie by the hair?? quote: Ewww.
If a boy is able to make such a connection with a girl that she consideres him her best friend, I think he has a great shot at a romantic involvement as long as he is truly self confident. quote: Worked for my husband and many of his friends in high school and college.
Why waste your time with their techniques when the smart, mature girls see through them in a heartbeat? quote: The smart girls aren't doing that.
quote: Worked for my husband and most of his friends. Worked for me and most of my friends.
quote: Maybe, maybe not. He will not start the relationship off in a good way by behaving like an asshole, though. That much is for sure.
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