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rgb
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Message 16 of 110 (314795)
05-24-2006 2:39 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by iano
05-21-2006 5:17 PM


Re: The constitution according to Leviticus
iano writes
quote:
Abandon Country!!!
Funny you said that. I'm leaving the country in a few months to go on my polytheistic mission to third world countries. I haven't had any luck in this country so far to convince people that there are actually many gods rather than one all powerful god. I figured that it'll be much easier to indoctrinate third world people of my polytheistic beliefs.
PS - Is it just me or Faith's posts are filled with hate?
Edited by rgb, : After thoughts.

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iano
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Message 17 of 110 (314848)
05-24-2006 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by rgb
05-24-2006 2:39 AM


Poly...the word that evokes a sense of the synthetic
Funny you said that. I'm leaving the country in a few months to go on my polytheistic mission to third world countries. I haven't had any luck in this country so far to convince people that there are actually many gods rather than one all powerful god.
Hallelujah!
I figured that it'll be much easier to indoctrinate third world people of my polytheistic beliefs.
Whilst I wouldn't wish you any success in this I would hope you have a safe journey.
PS - Is it just me or Faith's posts are filled with hate?
Sometimes despair, frustration, anguish and an intolerance for lies comes across that way. Hate? I don't believe so in the least

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Faith 
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Message 18 of 110 (314858)
05-24-2006 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by rgb
05-24-2006 2:39 AM


Re: The constitution according to Leviticus
PS - Is it just me or Faith's posts are filled with hate?
There isn't a shred of hate. And I wonder if your remark is about that emotion anyway. I've come to believe it's a formula that people apply to certain ideas, and has nothing whatever to do with the attitude of hate. It's just a definition, a label that political correctness slapped on certain ways of thinking it opposes. In fact I think it's a clever ploy, a way of poisoning the well against certain ideas to prevent people from taking them seriously.
What do you think?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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rgb
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Message 19 of 110 (314995)
05-24-2006 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
05-24-2006 10:13 AM


Re: The constitution according to Leviticus
Faith writes/rights
quote:
What do you think?
I suppose it's a matter of perspective. The 'live and let live' part of my conscience prevents me from seeing your view as anything but hate. At best, I can agree to disagree with you.

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rgb
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Message 20 of 110 (314999)
05-24-2006 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by iano
05-24-2006 9:38 AM


Re: Poly...the word that evokes a sense of the synthetic
iano testifies
quote:
Hallelujah!
Haha. Actually, I'll be leaving the country for some humanitarian stuff that has nothing to do with religion. That was just a joke on my part.
quote:
Whilst I wouldn't wish you any success in this I would hope you have a safe journey.
Nah. Where I'm going, I'll be dodging bullets and having diarhea everyday for the next thousand days. Perfectly safe by my standard.
quote:
Sometimes despair, frustration, anguish and an intolerance for lies comes across that way. Hate? I don't believe so in the least
Care to explain more on this?

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 21 of 110 (315001)
05-24-2006 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by jar
05-23-2006 9:08 PM


Re: Hopefully not too far off Topic
Again, not true. Nothing in Science is a problem for Christians, only for some subset cult of Christianity.
Also, those things are only problems for cult christians who don't understand science.
I have yet to meet one person (here or in real life) who has even a basic understanding of science who disowns it.

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iano
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Message 22 of 110 (315074)
05-25-2006 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by rgb
05-24-2006 8:27 PM


Re: Poly...the word that evokes a sense of the synthetic
I supppose the best way to explain it would be to ask you for some evidence of Faith being hateful

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 23 of 110 (315102)
05-25-2006 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by rgb
05-24-2006 2:39 AM


Re: The constitution according to Leviticus
PS - Is it just me or Faith's posts are filled with hate?
it is only possible to those who disagree with her. which seems to be okay with her. i think it's that she assumes that anyone who disagrees with her is incapable of complex thought and aims her beam very liberally (both meanings please). of course that we might be offended is our own fault and not her intent whatsoever.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 24 of 110 (315118)
05-25-2006 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Faith
05-23-2006 9:05 PM


Re: Hopefully not too far off Topic
Jewish overreaction to Nazism
Yeah, the Jews really blew that whole "holocaust" thing way outta proportion.
Oh, and there is no hate in Faith's posts.

"We had survived to turn on the History Channel
And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied:
You're what happens when two substances collide
And by all accounts you really should have died."
-Andrew Bird

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sidelined
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Message 25 of 110 (315120)
05-25-2006 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Dan Carroll
05-25-2006 11:15 AM


Re: Hopefully not too far off Topic
[Dan's Clever
Alias]
Yeah, the Jews really blew that whole "holocaust" thing way outta proportion.
I agree. Why let a little thing like attempted genocide spoil your outlook on things? I am sure Faith would have had no problem with "camp" life at Dachau. Maybe she could have organized a glee club to keep spirits up eh?

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EZscience
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Message 26 of 110 (315140)
05-25-2006 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
05-24-2006 10:13 AM


Faith's lack of hatred
Faith writes:
There isn't a shred of hate.
So Faith, are you now saying you don't hate Islam?
I think it wouldn't take much effort to dig up some quotes of yours that might cast doubt on this assertion.

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iano
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Message 27 of 110 (315151)
05-25-2006 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by EZscience
05-25-2006 2:04 PM


Re: Faith's lack of hatred
Good point EZ. We missed an essential adjective here. Whether Faiths hatred is righteous or unrighteous. The word 'Hate' is usually associated with the latter.
Faith hates lies. This is true.

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EZscience
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Message 28 of 110 (315155)
05-25-2006 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by iano
05-25-2006 2:52 PM


Re: Faith's lack of hatred
iano writes:
Faith hates lies
But then it becomes more subjective. Faith considers some things to be lies that are true. Evolutionary theory, for example.
I would go so far as to say that Faith probably considers any evidence, theory or idea that contradicts anything in the bible to be a lie. So how are we to believe that she might not, in fact, be consumed with hatred ? What would limit it?
ABE: I would not say that I 'hate' lies, but rather that they are just something inevitable in the world that we will always have to ferret out.
However, those willfully promoting lies *while fully aware of the truth* are deserving of some greater level of despise.
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nwr
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Message 29 of 110 (315156)
05-25-2006 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by EZscience
05-25-2006 3:09 PM


Re: Faith's lack of hatred
I would not characterize Faith's posting behavior as "hate". I think it better fits "mob psychology", where in this case the fundamentalists constitute the mob.
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EZscience
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Message 30 of 110 (315159)
05-25-2006 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by nwr
05-25-2006 3:22 PM


Re: Faith's lack of hatred
No, I agree with you.
And I don't want to seem like I am singling out Faith or implying any fundamental hatred on her part.
It just that saying you only 'hate lies' doesn't really say much and is very dependent on what you happen to consider to be 'lies'.
I would go further and say that hatred implies a strong emotional response that is only rightly directed toward *someone* and not *something*. You can't hate an idea or a statement because it happens to be false, or even someone who unknowingly parrots them, but you can hate someone who promotes such ideas knowing they are false.
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