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Author Topic:   What religious rights, if any, are currently being eroded in the USA?
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 196 of 228 (109100)
05-18-2004 5:46 PM


The ACLU link and the Supreme Court exempting the Amish from having to send their kids to public schools - what do these two things have in common ?
Two God hating entities feigning neutrality toward God, which is a kind way of saying they are liars.
When the Supreme Court exempted the freak show called the Amish from sending their kids to public schools - this was there way of saying
"See the First Amendment in action.....we threw a bone to the world at large to sustain an (untrue) image that the First Amendment is being respected"
The Supreme Court wouldn't grant a mainstream church any rights, they want to control the giant churches and the assets they possess.
The ACLU for the Bible ?
Same principle as above and every honest and intelligent person knows it. They pick an issue to deflect away criticism, which is nothing but pure lying. Those God hating atheo evos are the law wing of Satan in this country. They wouldn't defend a true religious right, instead they defend a meaningless and harmless issue for the sole purpose of getting applause from their constituency of hate-filled puppets.
Edit: Poster would never of posted that link unless what I said wasn't true. They silently agree with me and recognize the truth I pointed out.
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jar
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Message 197 of 228 (109101)
05-18-2004 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Cold Foreign Object
05-18-2004 5:46 PM


The ACLU should not be FOR the Bible.
And anyone who can call the Amish a freak show is simply a fool.
A finding that the Amish do NOT have to send their kids to public school would hardly count as an erosion of rights.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 198 of 228 (109102)
05-18-2004 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by coffee_addict
05-18-2004 5:15 PM


Not really - I am too upset.

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MonkeyBoy
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Message 199 of 228 (109107)
05-18-2004 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by MonkeyBoy
05-18-2004 4:33 PM


Re: Hahahahaha! !
Ooops! I did not mean to do that, I'll be more careful.
Thanks!

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Message 200 of 228 (109110)
05-18-2004 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by coffee_addict
05-18-2004 5:15 PM


I do not mean to speak for WT...
...but I think he is referring to the artist Andres Serrano. In 1989 he displayed a bottle with a crucifix submerged in his own urine, entitled, "Piss Christ". He received $15,000.00 from the National Endowment of the Arts.
I am not sure of the outcome, if he was placed uder arrest or just faded in obscurity.
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jar
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Message 201 of 228 (109113)
05-18-2004 6:35 PM
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05-18-2004 6:31 PM


Re: I do not mean to speak for WT...
It would still have no bearing on the topic of the thread. The grant supported an artist, not the art. It would certainly not show any religious rights being eroded.
As with all the other examples given by WT, it is simply red gefilte fish.

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Message 202 of 228 (109120)
05-18-2004 7:08 PM
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05-18-2004 6:35 PM


Re: I do not mean to speak for WT...
You are not paying attention or even worse you are clowning the debate.
I never claimed or said the present issue was a religious right erosion.
It is way too diificult to debate with people who are intentionally misquoting.
Monkey is right in his description of the issue I referred to. But you have taken a hate filled stance in calling that piece of shit an "artist"
Suppose I piss in a bottle and insert something representative that is dear to you in it ?
It wasn't you who was affected - maybe next time it will.
The fact that certains defended this nonsense under the guise of artistic license perfectly reveals hate being whitewashed in pseudo intellectualism.
Why don't you show the room your alllegiance to the same principle by pissing in a bottle and sticking your mothers picture in it. You cannot talk until the same is done to you with something special. Remember the principle - artistic license/anti- censorship.
In case you plan on denying all this suddenly - insult someone else's intelligence /I cannot deny what I see: A genuine hypocrite who hates Protestants - this is the real issue.
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Message 203 of 228 (109121)
05-18-2004 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Cold Foreign Object
05-18-2004 5:46 PM


Oh dear, how sad. Willowtree got proven wrong again so he has to go off on one of his little tantrums and his lies about all the people he hates.
You know Willowtree if you opened your mind - instead of calling other people closed-minded for looking beyond the sources you want them to see - and actually made some effort to find the truth you might not be so badly wrong so often.

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jar
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Message 204 of 228 (109123)
05-18-2004 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Cold Foreign Object
05-18-2004 7:08 PM


Re: I do not mean to speak for WT...
willowtree writes:
I never claimed or said the present issue was a religious right erosion.
Perhaps it might be worthwhile looking at the title of the thread.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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zephyr
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Message 205 of 228 (109124)
05-18-2004 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Cold Foreign Object
05-18-2004 7:08 PM


Re: I do not mean to speak for WT...
Hey, are you enjoying the hydrophobia these days? It seems to be progressing slowly but surely....

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Message 206 of 228 (109125)
05-18-2004 7:25 PM


Cooling off period
Closing this down for a cooling off period. It will be reopened tomorrow (5-19)sometime after 5pm forum time.
Any complaints to me can be taken to the Suggestions and Questions forum. I believe you can start a new post there without going through the Proposed New Topic forum.

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Message 207 of 228 (109520)
05-20-2004 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by AdminAsgara
05-18-2004 7:25 PM


Re: Cooling off period
I know..I'm late in reopening this. No one seemed that upset. :/

AdminAsgara
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Message 208 of 228 (109523)
05-20-2004 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by AdminAsgara
05-20-2004 8:25 PM


Re: Cooling off period
Oh Gracious Queen,
In thy defense, I must point out that thou hast complied with the letter of thine own promise, and that none may level such slanderous accusation against thee as shall hold any semblance of merit or draw its substance from any legitimate source. In short, thou art the Queen and thou art forever correct, right, and true, and in this case thou art even self-consistent. Blessings upon thee!
Thy humble servant and consumer of much beer upon days in which he has expectation of being relieved of his travails until the following week,
Zephyr

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 209 of 228 (109545)
05-20-2004 11:05 PM
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05-18-2004 7:24 PM


What is hydrophobia ?
I have deliberately not looked it up.
I suspect that "phobia" implies fear, but when I find out what the word means I probably will disagree because in all accuracy, the truth will be that I don't "like" something.
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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 210 of 228 (109549)
05-20-2004 11:18 PM


I would just like to point out that the recent exchanges which prompted a cooling off closure criticized me for being angry, which my opponents slanderously labeled as hate.
This is standard practice to deflect away from the points - suit a person in a hate jacket.
If anyone ignores the points and attacks the person then they are conceding the arguments/points.
I will forsake this topic until my points are answered.

  
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