Bush Arrested In Canada for war crimes

Yeah, I knew we put saddam in power, that was a big mistake, and now we are correcting it. (though I don't know what president did it)

First, we arn't talking about senior here, and second, how did bush train osama? This I have got to know

JF, you are avoiding my direct questions. You have made some specific factual claims that you need to support or withdraw.I have cut n pasted them from my previous message for your convenience.

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Second, though we did not have COMPLETE proof (just a bunch of circumstanial evidence and very good likly hoods that they had WMD, as an inspector said,

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that almost everyone (contrys) thought that Iraq had WMD,

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sence Iraq gave that message) But we correctly went in to free the people from a torturing dictator,

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Saddam may or may not have had anything to do with WTC, but we have found no released evidence that he did.

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Exactly.There is NO evidence that he had anything to do with 9/11.Most Bush supporters believe that he did, though, because Bush, Rumsfeld, and Cheney repeatedly implied in interviews and speeches in the run up to the war that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.So, if you know that Iraq was not an imminent threat to the US, and that Iraq was not responsible for 9/11, and that the Bush regime did not have VERY STRONG evidence that Iraq had WMD, tell me again why we invaded their country, killing over 100,000 civilians, angering and completely alienating the entire Arab world? Really the whole world?George Bush's incompetant and illegitimate war for oil has been the best recruitment tool Al Qaida and Bin Laden ever had.

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However, he has given money to terrorists,

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Palestinians, not Al Qaida....kind of similar to the way we supported Iraq by providing Saddam Hussein WMD during the Iraq/Iran war.

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and at least one of his advisors swore allegince to al Qaida.

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Sudan, Afghanistan and Iran have all supported al Qaida in the past, but IRAQ HAS NOT.In fact, bin Laden hated that Iraq was a secular government because he wants all Arab countries to have strict Muslim religious governments.This message has been edited by schrafinator, 12-13-2004 06:53 PM

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Easy, Saudi is not a threat to us and our allies because they are a allie, at least in some sence.

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Crash has already addressed one part of the threat Saudi Arabia poses, but there is another.You weren't alive to remember the energy crisis in the 70's, but I was. If Saudi Arabia wanted to, they could bring the US to it's knees without any violence whatsoever.The Saudis own a staggering $860 billion of the US....thats about 6 or 7 percent of our entire economy.Don't you think that this gets some serious privilage and access to the highest office in the land, especially when the ush family has been in bed with the Saudis in their personal business dealings for decades?

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First, saudi it's self is not likely to attack anyone, Iraq was, as it proved in 91.

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But who actually DID attack us, JF?Who had the capability to attack us?Did Iraq attack us or have the capacity to attack us?North Korea, China, Iran, and Pakistan, and Russia all actually HAVE WMD that we know about FOR SURE.Bin Laden, supported by the Taliban in Afghanistan, actually DID attack us, NOT Iraq.

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Second, if this was over bisness interests, atacking saudi would make bush way richer than attacking Iraq, because saudi gives us so much of our oil, the price would skyrocket.

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No, the price would plummet, because we would control the oil.

No, we didn't put him in power. That's one of the few things we didn't do.But we certainly supported him even when we knew he was using Chemical Warfare against his own people. We supported him for many decades when we were well aware of what he was doing in terms of slaughtering the opposition.Then we gave him the Go-Ahead and okay to invade Kuwait. When he did so, we turned around and opposed his actions. And we did it all simply because we felt it was in our own short term interests.Then we encouraged terrorism and uprising within Iraq only to fail to support those we had encouraged and simply stood aside while he slaughtered the very people we had encouraged to revolt.But if you will reread my post, there were one or two other places and events I mentioned.Before you get too much more involved you really need to learn about the history of those other incidents and examples of US created and supported terrorism.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Trust me, I've looked around on this stuff. Do you have any proof that we gave saddam the go ahead? Nothing has ever mentioned this.

Of course there is proof. Nor is it much of a secret. And it was widely reported at the time.The go ahead was given by Ambassador April Glaspie. By the way, you should really take the time to study her career. Here's a link to the transcript of the meeting between Saddam and Glaspie.Things like this should be common knowledge, certainly as commonly known as the links between the Bush clan and drug dealers.This message has been edited by jar, 12-15-2004 03:53 PM

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1. your link doesn't work so I am still in the dark, 2. what is your proof that this transcrip is true

Link should work now. Well, Glaspie has admitted that was what she said.But the point of all of this is that terrorism has bee a favorite tool of the US for many, many decades. In particular, Ronald Reagan believed it was the single best too of diplomacy and created terrorist organizations all over the world.

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And we know Glaspie wasn't lieing how..? Were do you get that Ronald Regan (one of the best presedents we ever had)used terrorism?

Well he sold arms to Iran - a nation that he himself decried as a terrorist nation.I guess you are too young for the contra affair....

Hey Charles, you are wasting your time with JF. If you want my professional opinion, he's a know-it-all 14-17 year old who is partially illiterate. This would explain why he continues to ignore all the facts that are all around him.

JFI gave you a link to the transcript of the conversation between Saddam and Ambassador Glaspie, one that she has acknowledged. Now short of actually having been sitting in on the conversation (I was asked to attend but there was a T-Ball practice that day) I don't know how much more evidence I could provide.Now about Ronald Reagan, as a Republican I can say he was without a doubt one of the WORST Presidents we have ever had and an even bigger failure as Governor.But let's look specifically at RR and Terrorism. He supported, funded and created the Contras. He approved having the CIA smuggle drugs into the US as a means of funding activities that had been specifically forbidden by Congress. He created, funded, trained and equiped the mujahadeen in Afgansitan, the Kurds, Sunni and Shia uprisings in Iran and Iraq, traded weapons to IRAN, and funded, supported, equipped and trained terrorists in Nicaragua and Hondurus as well as supporting General Noriega in Panama. And, as a parting shot, he had all of the records sealed effectively shutting off the investigation known as Iran-Contra and protecting George Bush from the fallout.No, there is no doubt that Reagan, like most American Presidents, has seen terrorism as a valid extension of Diplomacy.JF, the reason I bring these up is that we, as Americans, need to know ALL of our history, the good and the bad, and learn from it. If we do not, we will simply continue making the same mistakes and errors time after time.

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