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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
When you are charged with quote mining it MEANS that you took statements made BY OTHER PEOPLE and took them out of context or otherwise misrepresented them. I explained that. Like I said, you ought to think about your responses. The fact that you don't understand what quote mining is, even after it's just been explained to you hardly makes you look good.. This is becoming tedious. I know what you meant, but its apparent that you misunderstood me, still. And now you are bringing up irrelevant points that I can only assume is an attempt to detract from the actual argument. For the last time, bringing up the MRC is LIKE how people charge me with quote mining. In other words, its baseless, because the MRC didn't use photoshop to alter the films. The people really did say what they said. Just LIKE how when I quote people, they really say what they really said. MRC's video clips are no more out of text or any less valid than the quotes I use, which are fully applicable to whatever topic we are discussing at that time. Do you understand what I'm saying? I hope so because I'm not going over it again. “Always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you.” -1st Peter 3:15
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: No, it isn't irelevant. Your whole "defence" against the charge of quote mining is that you are simply reporting what other people said. But quote mining IS repeating what other people said - but in a misleading way.
quote:Which is exactly why it is necessary to understand what quote mining is. quote: And just like many examples of quote mining. A charge of quote mining does not presume any alteration of the quote. Simply presenting it without context that significantly affects the meaning is sufficient.
quote: Which rather begs the question, doesn't it ?
quote: You are under a misconception here. The reason we are going over and over this is becasue YOU do not understand what you are saying.e
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm sorry, I find it hard even to read Moyers, knowing how much leftist bias there is in every word he utters. Perhaps you could help me out with some actual facts from the piece? The salient points at least.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I find it hard even to read Moyers It nauseates you? I think both the Left and the Right are full of hot air myself. They're all so moralistic.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1430 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I'm sorry, I find it hard even to read Moyers, knowing how much leftist bias there is in every word he utters. Obviously you don't read him very well. Or you fail to admit to yourself how extreme your rightist views are. When your biases prevent you from reading something, then you should question why you have such a reaction if you really (think you) have a free and open, honest view of the world. Perhaps those are the things you need to pay more attention to -- the kinds of things that NEWS should pay attention to, the things that make you wince. And when it comes to the LIES of the Botch administration, anyone who believes there are none is living in DEEP DENIAL: evidence Katrina when Botch said "no-one knew, no-one could have known" AFTER he was at a conference that presented EXACTLY the kind of disaster that unfolded AND WAS RECORDED THERE. OR when he announced that they had the evidence of secret labs, that trucks had been found that confirmed Saddams biological weapons program -- after a memo had been sent that OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED it was NOT a weapons program at all: either he read the memo and LIED about the result or he didn't read the memo and made the announcement BEFORE GETTING THE EVIDENCE that he then LIED about having. YOUR CALL. Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I'm sorry, I find it hard even to read Moyers, knowing how much leftist bias there is in every word he utters.
Perhaps that is your way of saying that you are afraid to read Moyers. For myself, I have never been afraid to read those on the political extremes. It is often hilarious to see the mistakes. And occasionally there is actually something thoughtful written by a conservative. Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh I know very well how right wing I am. About the nauseatingest.
Too bad leftists don't know how leftist they are, have to claim they're middle of the road. Left wing stuff annoys me no end. I just get impatient reading it. Completely untrustworthy.
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Bush said that no American citizens were wiretapped without a warrant. We know that to be a lie.
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: No, we don't know that. When was the last time you spent any appreciable amount of time on a University, Faith? Have you ever? And as to your claim that the Ivy's are all Marxists...both George Bush Sr. and Dubbya are leftists, being Yale graduates. Right?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3953 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
it doesn't matter if it's a lie because clearly the president can do anything he wants... that's why we have a constitution, doncha know. to define everything everyone else can do so they don't step on the president's toes.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3953 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
i became a "leftist" after attending christian school.
but then i actually do have socialist tendencies. Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5859 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
I'm sorry, I find it hard even to read Moyers, knowing how much leftist bias there is in every word he utters. Perhaps you could help me out with some actual facts from the piece? The salient points at least. That's really, really sad. Does hearing the truth upset your carefully constructed fantasy world so much? If you are so sure you are right then surely mere words are perfectly safe. I actually like to read all sides... even when they are very silly
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Why don't you give us some examples of how the mainstream US media is extremely leftist. Paste some quotes that show a consistent far left position. Time to ante up and lay your cards on the table. Show us what you've got. It would be helpful if you could give a brief description of what you believe to be a centrist, as opposed to a leftist, political view.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1430 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Too bad leftists don't know how leftist they are, have to claim they're middle of the road. Wrong again. Leftists know when they are extremes, know the shades of gray of the spectrum of politics and recognize those at the center. The difference is that leftists recognize a center between them and the fanatic right, rather than label everything else as {other\must be evil}.
Completely untrustworthy. Especially when backed up by fact after fact after fact, instead of being pure assertion.... enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1369 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
The difference is that leftists recognize a center between them and the fanatic right, rather than label everything else as {other\must be evil}. everything is left of the extreme right.
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