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BMG Member (Idle past 463 days) Posts: 357 From: Southwestern U.S. Joined: |
You do realize networks compete against each other for ratings, right? If there was one network there wouldn't be any competition. It doesn't mean that they couldn't be regulated. How does the lack of competition provide for more accurate, reputable, and reliable information?
It may be wishful thinking but that doesn't mean we have to just give up. There will continue to be evil acts in the world too, despite our best efforts, but that doesn't mean we just give up and make matters worse by not trying to alleviate those problems? I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to get at.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5931 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
I would venture to say there were many Nazis that were indeed very good people on the inside. Oscar Schindler being an example. Instead of a political party running 1 country (Germany) just before WWII, its a religion that exists in almost every country. Now muslims disagree on alot of things in their religion. That's why you have Shia and Sunni, who like to kill each other. But there's 1 thing that unites the entire religion: Fighting against Israel.
Again, we aren't there yet. But that's where we are headed. Edited by Tal, : No reason given. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6608 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
quote:Actually, I have been having trouble verifying this, too. Tal made this claim in another thread. I couldn't find anything to back up his version. However if you look for plastic keys rather than gold ones you can find loads of references such as this one from The New Republic. Although I could can find lots of reports I can't find anything to actually verify the story that 'human waves' of children were used to clear minefields - there are references to an unamed 'East European reporter' who saw it but that's about it. The link I put in takes you to a page where you have to be a subscriber to read the whole article, but if you put "Ahmadinejad's Demons" into Google the first hit will take you to the whole article directly. Oops! Wrong Planet
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Thanks, Tiger.
For some reason, I don't seem to be able to get the hang of Google. I really seem to have a hard time using it to find anything useful. The article was written by Matthias Kntzel, who is a member of the Scholars for Peace in the Middle East which, along with The New Repbulic, appear to be apologists for Israel policy. On the other hand, Kntzel also appears to be a legitimate academic. At any rate, I also am having a difficult time getting information about these "children" being used as human mine clearers beyond people just saying that it happened. It is possible, I guess -- it would be consistent with Iran "human wave" tactics against Iraqi positions. Still, calling teen-agers "children" seems...odd to me. The obvious appeal to emotion along with that these claims seem to be confined to pro-Israel policy sites leads me to maintain at least some doubt. "These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not." -- Ernie Cline
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Tal Member (Idle past 5931 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
You seem to be missing the forest for all the trees. Take a step back. This is common practice. Palestinians send thier kids to blow themselves up rather regularly with the promise of 72 virgins and lots of money for each Jew that they kill. That money used to come from Saddam, but the US and GBR took care of that. The point here is to explain why this female would blow up her 6 month old baby on the planes leaving GBR last week. I know I couldn't hurt my kids, but these people don't care because their children will be going to paradise. If they strap C-4 around thier kids today, does it take that big of a logical leap to think they would do it to clear mines a couple of decades ago?
Again, what a baby is going to do with 72 virgins is beyond me. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Theus Inactive Member |
A) Members of the Muslim religion should not be compared to Nazi's (though that's in vogue), and
B) There are many Palestinians and Israeli Arabs who don't want to see Israel destroyed, thus not uniting the WHOLE religion. Where is your evidence for this war that's coming? Or is this another baseless conservative claim such as WMDs? I, and hopefully a few others, will not give you the benefit of the doubt on such a white-washing claim against followers of Islam. Au revoir,Theus ‘ ‘ — — ‘
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Tal Member (Idle past 5931 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
A) Germans had values like any other society. After Hitler came into power the populace was desensitized by indoctrinating them and their children.
Hitler Youth
Hezbos Youth
Hamas Youth
B)What do you base this assessment on? The Palestinians teach their kids hate.
No webpage found at provided URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH4UuWFk5Sg&mode=related&search= Page not found - WND The documentary also juxtaposes the children's programming with television news reporting, in which the news anchor - reflecting the same message the children are receiving -describes Palestinians as "noble, courageous" fighters, while describing Israel as "mean, fascist, racist, genocidal" and "Nazis." Other "highlights" of the "Children's Club": * Groups of children are gathered together, shouting for "Jihad against Israel."* One girl, who appears to be in a Palestinian school classroom, sings of donning "battledress" to "attack the Zionists."* A small girl chants the now-familiar ditty, "When I wander into Jerusalem, I will become a suicide bomber."* An adult narrator reads material in a Palestinian school pamphlet: "I have raised my children for jihad and on the principle that they never give up on their land."* One segment depicts a small boy on the street chanting, "Revolution until victory."* Another boy is shown in class proclaiming, "We will settle our claims with stones and bullets." Palestinian Textbooks Teach Anti-Israel Hate | CAMERA What do the Palestinian schools teach? Ninth-graders study from official textbooks that assert, "treachery and disloyalty are character traits of the Jews and therefore one should beware of them." Jews are cast as Satanic, violent and cunning, as "thieving conquerors" who have stolen Arab land and must be fought and defeated. Jihad and martyrdom are glorified as the means to liberating "Palestine" and children's poems contain calls to war and bloodletting. Fifth graders memorize such lines as, "I shall take my soul in my hand and hurl it into the abyss of death." The same verses are recited by children on official Palestinian television. Sixth-graders read of a young boy growing up with "the love of Jihad flowing through his veins and filling every fiber of his being." "Joy" comes only at "the sight of the enemy lying dead" or "fleeing for their lives." No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part11.html So on and so forth. This is what they teach thier children. Now I would like you to show me examples of Palestinians that want to live in harmony with Israel. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Again, what a baby is going to do with 72 virgins is beyond me. According to philologists and critics, the actual translation is 'raisins,' not virgins. They will recieve 72 white raisins according to the Qur'an. http://www.rense.com/general45/islamafter.htm “If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner
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Tal Member (Idle past 5931 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
I heard it translated "72 white flowers" from a native of Baghdad. I hope Satan has a dozen white roses for them when they get to hell.
Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1721 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
But there's 1 thing that unites the entire religion: Fighting against Israel. Of course, even with all that strife, there's one thing that unites Jews, Christians, and Muslims: hating gays.
Rabbi: ‘Holy Land, not Homo Land’
quote: And, hey, if you read the comments, you can see Tal's buddies expressing their solidarity with their Jihadist brethren on this issue. I don't see any fundamental problem with the facts as Tal is presenting them, at least in part. It's absolutely true that jihadist groups are indoctrinating children to hate and to kill. Of course, his implication that it's just Muslim jhadists that are doing it is absolutely false: Seriously, though. "Not the homo land." That gets me every time. It would be absolutely freakin' hilarious if not for the fact that, as an atheist who can see no moral problem with homosexuality, all three of these convergent religions are equally adamant that I be "turned or burned", as I think they put it.
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4248 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
According to philologists and critics, the actual translation is 'raisins,' not virgins. They will recieve 72 white raisins according to the Qur'an. Load of old cobbler`s if you read the rebuttal on the same page of that link
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Jaderis Member (Idle past 3679 days) Posts: 622 From: NY,NY Joined: |
For a little perspective...
Israeli kids signing missiles headed into Lebanon Sabbah's blog You can find one of the images from the blog on JPost
From an article concerning Christian teen Battlecry events
Christian Post - also from Battlecry Found this image in a search and forgot to copy the address and I don't feel like finding it. Just do an image search on JROTC to find the link and more images of kids being militarized
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Tal Member (Idle past 5931 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
For a little perspective...
No webpage found at provided URL: https://www.youtube.com/v/-HlaVpqUXF0 Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: What do you hope that Satan has for you when you arrive? "These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not." -- Ernie Cline
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Theus writes: As far as I'm concerned CNN and Fox News are the worst dangers to that region (and ours) because they give a voice to the extreme elements of any conflict and isolate (and thus discourage) the more moderate majority. I would like to know what others think, because I think more than any one war or one political controversy this is a problem that needs to be addressed. If our "eyes" for the rest of the world are so jaded and nearsighted, we have the obligation to do our best to change it, but only if everyone sees the same problem. The media is big business. It is an inescapable part of modern society. Communication is evolving in the information age that we now live in, however. Sharing your story with us made more of an impact on me than either CNN or Fox has been able to do in their reports on the current Lebanese conflict. Thanks!
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