Media and Religion today

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You really shouldn't be worried about military interrogators. You may want to shift focus to the real problem; which, I notice, you seem to be ignoring. These pictures remind you of another youth program? Germany in the 40s perhaps?

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Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize

Looks like a Jr. ROTC program in the US. But my guess is that those kids aren't Americans (or allies), and therefore must be dangerous fanatics.

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"These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not."
-- Ernie Cline

According to this BBC article, it seems that Tal isn't the only one who thinks that state organized military training for kids is a problem.

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"These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not."
-- Ernie Cline

Are you claiming to be a member of the 3rd special forces group airborne?

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there is only one good,knowledge,
and one evil, ignorance.

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Socrates.

Wow. The last time I checked, JROTC and ROTC don't teach bigotry and genocide in their curricula. The comparison simply shows how moronic you truly are.

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Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize

Tal, I spent a month working with Palestinians from near the Jenin Refugee camp this summer, as well as with Arab Israelis from Afula and Nazareth. I've studied with Muslims from Mauritania and Iraq over the past year. And they have displayed greater tolerance, wisdom, and understanding then you with all your jingling swords.I am disgusted to see you label a religion as such. There are extremists in every religion, from Hinduism to Islam to Christianity. The trick is not to use that shade of color when painting stereotypes.

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His political and religous views are that Israel needs to be wiped off the map. He's said it publically many times; most recently this week.

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Yeah, Amadinejad is a nasty guy, I've volunteered for Amnesty International and from the information I've seen he's a lot worse than threatening words to the people of Iran. But he's also a radical minority ruling over a growing secular population and much of his anti-Israel rhetoric is as much maintaining internal control through an artificial enemy (like Iraq) as it is foreign policy. The best way to defeat such ignorant, self-gratifying fundamentalists is by NOT replicating their worse traits.

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Lines are being drawn. Sides are being chosen. It WILL come down to us, or them, and I don't mean just the freak Islam boys. I mean the entire religion. Not very PC to say, but its the truth nonetheless.

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How about instead of complaining about an inevitable war, doing a little bit to disarm conflict when you see it. Join Amnesty, or if you've already stereotyped that group try just saying "hi" to a Muslim to let them know that they're not isolated from the rest of the world. Many Arabs and Muslims who have moved to the western world are often isolated because of their different appearance and beliefs, helping to ease them into our societies will go a long way in keeping them from falling in with the wrong crowd.

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Theus, your worry is pointed towards the wrong religion I am afraid.

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My aim isn't on any religion, yours or theirs. It is on individuals, such as yourself and Amadinejad who seem to think that some apocalyptic conclusion is necessary to justify your beliefs. The power of such a sentiment, particularly when espoused by leaders of nations, is very dangerous.Such religious and apocalyptic religion fueled the Crusades, particularly in the latter half concerning the re-conquest of Jerusalem. We can see how accurate such reasoning was then, and guess how accurate it is now. The apocalypse always looms, and we are always special for it.

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Oh, and then there is Hugo Chaves who has been quoted as saying that he feels love and compassion for all the Arab people, and might actually be Arab himself.

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So, after this post I see cards are on the table. There is a difference between Arab and Muslim, ask any Christian who lives in Nazareth or Jerusalem. And I am no more threatened by Chavez if he followed Islam than if he followed Christianity. Actually, not afraid of him at all. That he as a leftist and was elected in his country and has survived a coup suggests that a large body of his people share his beliefs, and our behavior as a nation (I'm assuming you're American here), has stimulated this response. It’s our responsibility to be better at foreign relations and do better business to disarm such anti-American sentiment at its root.Very few people do things because they are trying to be evil, the vast majority of us are doing things we think are good based on the limited information we have. Hopefully with time the internet and other mediums will help corrode such differences in reality perception. The world will never perfect, but there's no reason that it can't be reasonable for everyone.‘’‘’ ‘’’’‘’
TheusEdited by Theus, : Small typo at the front and forgot to add a title

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I'm not complaining. That is my assessment. I have spent 6 months in Egypt and 8 months in Baghdad. I've met many fine Muslims there. Don't stereotype me Reread my post. I don't need anything to justify my beliefs. Amadinjad does, and is pursuing just that end. Ding. A agree with your summary, unfortunatley ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force. Amadinejad doesn't believe he is being evil either. If he has to kill a few million jews to usher in the Mahdi than that's for the good of Islam. Keep in mind this is the country that sent thier children to the Iriania Egnineers in the Iran/Iraq war with gold keys tied around their necks. Then the engineers sent these children into minefields. The gold key was the key to paradise, so who cares if they blow up?I don't think Amadinejad will be pursuaded by an internet debate on the subject.

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Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize

What comparisons? You just posted pictures saying, "Be scared, kids, be very scared." Which is pretty typical of neo-con arguments -- lurid anectdotes with no context, very little true facts, and no logical development.What is interesting is, despite how moronic the neo-con claims are, so little electoral fraud is necessary to keep the Republicans in power.

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"These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not."
-- Ernie Cline

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Keep in mind this is the country that sent thier children to the Iriania Egnineers in the Iran/Iraq war with gold keys tied around their necks. Then the engineers sent these children into minefields. The gold key was the key to paradise, so who cares if they blow up?

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Actually, I have been having trouble verifying this, too.

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"These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not."
-- Ernie Cline

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Lines are being drawn. Sides are being chosen. It WILL come down to us, or them, and I don't mean just the freak Islam boys. I mean the entire religion. Not very PC to say, but its the truth nonetheless.

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Seems clear, though non-PC enough, then

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I'm not complaining. That is my assessment. I have spent 6 months in Egypt and 8 months in Baghdad. I've met many fine Muslims there. Don't stereotype me

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Would you argue that the people you've had experience with in quote #2 are the same danger posed in quote#1? Such sweeping generalizations seem to wash away individuals.— —
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The media is always a problem. The more sensational they can portray something, the higher their ratings. Perhaps if there was one media outlet, there would be no one to 'one-up' as far as sensationalizing goes. As well, too many of the outlets are prone towards bias coverage that seems to fit the agenda of those presenting the news. But their job isn't to inject opinion. That is the job of pundits. Somebody like Hannity and Colmes have the right to do this because that's the premise of the show. That's fine. Who doesn't have the right to do it, whatsoever, is the nightly news anchors, like, Rather, Jennings, and Brokaw. That isn't their job. Their job is to simply report the news, whatever it may be. I've long had a problem with this, and since being exposed, I've noticed a that the networks are trying to appeal to a non-partison base. The world isn't comprised of soley Conservatives. The world isn't comprised of soely Liberals, or Moderates, or anything else. Just report what happened, and stop trying to steer news in any direction. History is what it is. The study of histroy or an accounting of history has no bias. Just record it. That's their job. It would be well with them to never lose sight of that as being a Golden rule.That was a very interesting story by the way. Thanks for sharing.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

I disagree. Any war has the potential to become WWIII. But I would agree with you that if any news stations are reporting conjecture, they've lost sight of their job. But there is little question as to whether or not the situation in the Middle East is a volatile firebrand. Of course it is. It has the apocolyptic potential. Ever since the advent of nuclear weaponry we will always teeter on the edge of a knife. The only thing that has stayed anyone's hand is self-preservation. All it takes is a suicide bomber, indifferent to life, to gain access to a nuclear weapon and to wait for the fallout. The potential is always there.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

Hi NJ. A "media monarchy" is the answer to our problems with the media? One outlet that has absolute rule over the flow of information from our televisions? Wishful thinking. Just because historians should record events bereft of bias and prejudice doesn't make it so.

You do realize that networks compete against each other for ratings, right? If there was one network there wouldn't be any competition. It doesn't mean that they couldn't be federally regulated. It may be wishful thinking but that doesn't mean we have to just give up. There will continue to be evil acts in the world too, despite our best efforts, but that doesn't mean we just give up and make matters worse by not trying to alleviate those problems.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner