Israel/Lebanon/Gaza conflict (continuation thread)

Is it just me or does it seem strange that these kind of comments tend to come out of those who most profess to be Biblical Literalists?I would just like to point out to any readers out there that IMO real Christianity is not represented by this kind of statement. Also IMO this is the direct antithesis of what it means to be a Christian.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

i value human life and i believe that my god demanded that vengence be his reserved choice. it is not my place to support the killing of any living person for any reason with the possible exception of IMMEDIATE self defence which does not include countries.

you'd think that jews would know how dangerous it is to demonize an entire group of people based on some conspiracy theory...god forbid anyone learn a lesson ever. whole lot of morons.

Yes, that's because you are one of today's sentimentalist Chrsitians who don't take the Old Testament seriously. Removing evildoers from the world is a good deed on the level of nations. Letting them continue to wreak their murder and intimidation is an evil deed. Individuals are to die to self, but not nations. Nations should have laws that put some criminals to death, and nations should act as the US and Israel do, to defang evildoers.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I see. So if Hezbollah starts lobbing rockets at American cities, we should just let them do it and bury our dead without a complaint? If North Korea drops a nuke on San Francisco, again, not a murmur from us, because the North Koreans are human life?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It is the spirit of the message Faith. I never said that defending yourself is not Christian.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

I would think that those people over there and here would have noticed the true cause of this downward spiral by now, but no. Your analysis is what is naive. The problems there are caused by the mushheadedness of the rest of the world who refuse to discriminate between the criminal acts of the terrorists and the legitimate self defense of Israel. You can bet that if this one and only true moral stand on the situation were proclaimed by the UN and recognized by world opinion, and backed up by force if necessary, that THEN the violence would stop. What perpetuates the violence is the ideological determination of the terrorists to eliminate Israel altogether, and the refusal of the UN and the world to condemn them in no uncertain terms. They will accept no peace, they will not stop until they wipe Israel off the map. They may not be ABLE to do it but they will not stop until they do it nevertheless. This idea that you can appease criminals is what is perpetuating the violence. Yes, and THAT is the problem, that you make such a false moral equivalence. You are very wrong. Executing criminals when necessary is a righteous act and it serves to promote peace in the world. It's this equation of criminals with innocents that is the biggest problem in today's world.

after all, it is catastrophic judgement from god.

and after thousands of years of executing prisoners, where exactly is our peace?you have a bizarre and distorted version of peace. didn't your god say to turn the cheek?

The spirit of your message was that it is not right to kill criminals. But it is absolutely right and it IS self defense.What do you want me to say? Some whitewashed euphemistic garbage? Killing MURDEROUS CRIMINALS is a righteous act.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Right now it's being prevented by your kind of thinking. The world is NOT executing terrorists, is refusing to let Israel deal with them, is not even condemning them as the criminals they are. They are treating them with kid gloves as if they were a legitimate organization. I've addressed this bizarre and distorted version of Jesus' teachings many times, including on this thread. You cannot turn the other cheek on behalf of anyone but yourself. Turning the other cheek risks bringing harm to yourself, which you are not permitted to risk for anyone else. A nation cannot turn the other cheek, which only means putting its citizens in danger. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

What does "demonizing" people have to do with the fact that a terrorist organization is sending rockets into Israel and Israel finally decided to retaliate?

finally decided to retaliate? israel has been shelling varios "terrorist organizations" for 50 years. what are you smoking?

They have put up with terrorist actions more than they've retaliated, and they've been forced to by this morally corrupt UN and morally corrupt world that refuses to take an unequivocal stand to stop the terrorism.Have you listened to the audio link in Message 92?Also a good thing to read the links at Message 198.Oh, and you keep changing the subject too. I asked you what demonizing has to do with the current war since you'd made that false accusation that Israel is demonizing their enemies. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So you think we should just let them destroy our cities and not retaliate. Wonderful. I might agree if that included a national call to repent of our national sins, since all catastrophe IS from God, but you leave that part out.