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robinrohan Inactive Member |
The more I think about this injunction that we must not judge others, the sillier it seems. We judge people all the time. Moreover, why is the judgment of others always thought of in a negative sense? They are also favorable judgments. They are many different kinds of judgment.
There are moral judgments: "This man beat his wife. This is a bad man." "This man helped me a lot. This is a good man." There are aesthetic judgments: "This woman is beautiful." "God,he looks terrible after his illness." There are practical judgments: employers judge employees; teachers judge students. There are judgments about behavior that have to do with social mores: "This man is rude. I don't like this man." "This woman is very polite. I like her." The injunction not to judge others is a simple-minded notion. This is not the way life works.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Opinion can be synonymous with judgement by some definitions but when we are called to not judge, I don't think it means to not have opinions, I think it means to not assign the punishment. In ordinary conversation, it means an opinion about somebody. If somebody says, as people often do, "I try not to be judgmental about people," this does not mean,"I try not to assign punishment." It means that the person tries not to have negative opinions about people. That sounds nice, but it leads to hypocrisy. Judgments are inevitable. The world runs by judgments.
It may not be the way that life works, but that doesn't mean it can't be something that we shouldn't do. When I say that life works this way, I'm not saying that it's really too bad, but that's life. I'm saying that it is impossible for life to work any other way. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
The kind that Jesus is teaching against are the kind that MISjudge others, or apply harsh standards, or say gossipy mean things, or impute nasty motives instead of giving the benefit of the doubt and that sort of thing. Here's the odd thing about this little slogan, "I don't judge others." It's really got nothing to do with Christianity. It's a part of the simpleminded morality we can call "political correctness."
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Also: just what the hell is "political correctness" anyway? What does that even mean? I see this term bandied about by people all the time, but I don't know what on earth it's supposed to mean. The term "politically correct" was originally a joke among liberals having to do mostly with race, gender, and groups of various sorts that might be discriminated against, such as people in wheelchairs. So the liberals had to be real careful not to offend anybody, such as calling a disabled person a "cripple" or something of that sort. The joke consisted of taking this agenda to the extreme. Through the years, the term "political correctness" came to stand for this agenda of not discriminating against anybody. In other words, we must not judge, for if we do we might offend somebody or some group. Another slogan of political correctness is being "inclusive." Exclusivity is evil; inclusiveness is good. Traditional Christianity, for example, is exclusive and therefore evil by politically correct standards.New Age Christianity, such as Jar's religion, is inclusive and therefore good by politically correct standards. Political correctness is a pretense.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Who really says this? It's common and moreover it is said, I think, automatically, unthinkingly. It's ingrained within American culture. I don't know about European culture.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
So, if political correctness is actually a joke, and was never really meant to be taken seriously, then who actually holds to the idea? It's not a joke. The term "politically correct" was originally a joke.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But who actually holds to the idea? It's so much a part of our culture that we hardly notice it. I can give you a very good example from this forum. On one thread I was talking about an experience I had when I visited the VA hospital. I was walking around and saw some old men out in a little park where one is allowed to smoke. They were obviously old vets--many missing limbs. My comment on this forum was, "My heart went out to them." What I got in return was a barrage of accusations that I was "dehumanizing" these old men because I felt sorry for them. Political correctness.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
"Political Correct" is a term folk love to trot out, usually when their position has been shown to be absurd, bigotted, ridiculous or completely unsupportable No, it's a moral system. Your illogical religion is built upon its ideas.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But when Jesus told us not to judge others it was in direct context with hypocritical people who condemn people for a certain action, but then turn around and do the same thing. I'm not sure, but I think you may be right about that. But the ubiquity of the "judge not" idea is not in American culture due to Christianity.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
The term American itself is a crappy one, IMO There's a part of me that agrees with you completely. It's that boasting side of American culture. Why do we call it the "World Series"? It should be called "The Pro baseball championship series of the USA" or something. It's not a world wide event.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Is that an example of Political Correctness? Calling it the World Series is very unpolitically correct. My objection to it could be called political correctness, I suppose. It's not ALL bad.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Not trying to implicate or point a finger. Just trying to understand. Should be a new topic, I guess. No, go ahead. If you want to talk about boasting Americans, I agree completely. It makes me want to puke.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Could you give a link to this please? I've been trying, but I couldn't get "search" to work. It's in the thread called "The Boasts of Atheists."
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
However, without wishing to appear to be trying to read minds I suspect the response you got had more to do with the persona you adopt on this board and the reaction it provokes in people than with Political Correctness. My feeling is what you said was misinterpreted (and that was because the people involved put a bad - and in my opinion unjustified - interpretation on what you said). It was misintepreted because of their knee-jerk politically correct reaction. One must not feel sympathy for anybody because that means you are judging them--a rule of politically correct morality that stifles naturally good sympathetic feelings.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Ah, but there is none. Each standard is a custom fit, and we are the tailors. Very well expressed.
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