On Judging Others

What you are saying is very valid. But when Jesus told us not to judge others it was in direct context with hypocritical people who condemn people for a certain action, but then turn around and do the same thing. That's why He went on to describe what its like with the 'plank in the eye.' But we are supposed to recognize people and how they act. I don't think there is no ambiguity concerning that.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

Interesting story about Susan Sontag and the Walt Disney Corporation. Sontag, among other such Lefties as Michael Moore, absolutely hate the white race. In an ironic twist of fate, they both happen to be white. But that is neither here nor there. Anyway, this is but one of her more hyperbolic sentiments. Sontag wrote in one of her essays, "The white race is the cancer of human history. It is the white race and it alone-- its ideologies and inventions-- which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life." -Susan SontagIn all her malcontent, she wrote further in her essay, entitled, The Cancer of Human History. It continues on thus in more poetic fashion:"You think you own whatever land you land on. The earth is just a dead thing you can claim. But I know every rock and tree and creature has a life, has a spirit, has a name. You think the only people who are people are the people that look like you. But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger, you'll learn things you never knew you knew." -Susan SontagIf none of you have children just yet, you might not know that this poem was converted by the Disney Corp into lyrics, verbatim, for the movie Pocahantas. In the cartoon, Pocahantas sings this to Capt. John Smith in sort of a musical scolding. Disney won the Oscar for this little duet. Figuring the name "Cancer of Human History" might be viewed as unPC, it was changed to "Colors of the Wind."

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

No, I completely understand. I mean, this coined phrase gets thrown around quite a bit, particularly in American society. But if it really meant don't judge people in this way, we'd have no court system and ultimately no justice. I really believe, based on the Scriptures, that Jesus is asking us, "Why are you concerned about these other people when you are a chief offender? Don't you realize that you are a hypocrite?" This is what I've always understood it to mean. Perhaps in Aramaic or Hebrew its more clear than the English rendering. I'd go look in my concordance, but uh, that would require effort on my part.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

This is an excellent post. I agree, if you are born in the US, then you are an American. You aren't an African American or a Native American or a Mexican American or a Eurpoean American, you are just an American. And if people would like to stop all of this segregation, perhaps they should stop segregating themselves by causing this rift that is completely unneccesary.Your second point is just as good. For whatever reason, America claimed for itself the name adopted by Amerigo Vespucci, "America." I mean, I'm half Ecuadorian myself and even a very Castillian surname, but it doesn't bother me. Then again, I'm an American, so I don't know how South or other North Amricans feel about it.As far as I can tell, Native Americans would like to be referred to as their tribe affiliation. A Hopi does not consider a Navajo to be the same, even though they likely have similar DNA. But I guess its the same as why someone from Norway wouldn't want to be affiliated with Swedes, even if they share Nordic traits.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

When did he say that?

The last placed I lived was just about 10 miles from the Navajo-Hopi Reservation which meant that there was a very high population of indigenous peoples. Both groups seem to dislike just about anyone not directly affiliated with their tribe, but I noticed even a more striking disparity between the two tribes. I also knew a Cherokee who moved onto that Rez and neither group treated him very well because he was an outsider. Certainly I knew their cultures were a bit different and their language was different, but I was under the assumption that the difference between Hopi and Navajo and were, perhaps, the difference between Cantonese and Mandarin. As you've elucidated, that isn't the case at all. And to even further show how Native Americans are extremely diverse, its my understanding that certain tribes do not come from Sino-asiatic blood, but rather, some share more DNA markers with Vikings. I can't recall which East Coast tribes those are, but I'm sure somebody will know what I'm talking about.

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“If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner

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: I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

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Well, that's not a good way to get re-elected. Stupid move.