On Judging Others

So, if political correctness is actually a joke, and was never really meant to be taken seriously, then who actually holds to the idea?

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or any race but the white race

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What is the "white race"?What is the ancestry?

I don't know who Susan Sontag was.I'm asking you what the "white race" is.

But who actually holds to the idea?

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The white race is considered to incorporate Europeans from Greece and the Balkans to Britain and France and Spain and from Italy to Scandinavia and Russia.

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So, not Germans?Portugese?Swiss?Polish?Hungarians?Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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Every people group on this planet has its own names for foreigners. Only modern western liberals get all pushed out of shape about the names westerners have historically had for foreigners.

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Er, yeah, and those "names for foreigners" are generally derogatory in nature.Shame on those "western liberals" for thinking it's a good thing to not denigrate people for no other reason than being from somewhere else.After all, if everybody does it, it must be good to keep doing it, right?What's your ethnic ancestry, Faith?I want to know what to call you.Since I'm of German ancestry, you could start referring to me as a "Kraut", or maybe "Jew-Gasser" or "Nazi".Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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I agree, if you are born in the US, then you are an American.

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Except, according to George Bush, if you are an Atheist.Atheists shouldn't be allowed to be citizens, according to him.

Message #45 awaits, if you please.

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It was misintepreted because of their knee-jerk politically correct reaction.

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Or, as was suggested, the response you got had more to do with the persona you adopt on this board and the reaction it provokes in people than with Political Correctness.

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"Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends! Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!"
- Ned Flanders"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson

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The subject was such things as the mistaken term "Indians," not namecalling, or something like "Koran" for "Qur'an" and "Peking" for "Beijing."

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None of these are names for foreigners, Faith, so that couldn't be what we were talking about.Come on, can't you admit to the simple, obvious, common sense truth that western names for foreigners have traditionally been quite perjorative and demeaning, and that this well-known truth is what those "western liberals" are talking about?

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Liberal snootiness. {edit: There's even some of that liberal moralistic huffiness about the term "blacks" instead of the hyphenated divisive "African-Americans," despite the fact that it was a term chosen by black militants themselves.}

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You must hang out in much, much more liberal "snooty" locations and people than I do. If you lived in Berkely, than I suppose that's a possibility.Of course, you wouldn't be trying to say that all liberals everywhere would agree with or support the nonsense you say has happened to you, do you?I mean, that would be like saying that all conservatives support state-sponsored display of the confederate flag, which would be untrue.Of course, the confederate flag issue is far more common and widespread that the foolishness you describe.

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And now how about an acknowledgment of your error in Message 44.

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How was I in error?And do you include the Egyptians in the white race? What about Israelis? Turks? Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

Well, OK, but I asked what the white race was, and I got a rather vague response.I mean, I have no idea what "white race" means to Faith.

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I defined the white race as European and I gave the boundaries of the area of their origin. I regard that area as definitive.

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OK, I understand you to mean that Europeans are "the white race".So, not Egyptians or any other genetically caucasian people, right?Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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I do not want to discuss genetics.

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Of course you don't, because that would be too factual and limiting to your typical penchant of pulling stuff out of your backside and declaring it true.

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This is just irrelevant pedantry. Ask the leftists if they include Egyptians in the denunciation of the white race as the greatest evil on the planet and I would venture the guess that they don't. That is all that matters here.

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OK, I'll ask them.Er, who should I ask?You seem to know who all of these "leftists" in the US are.Are they the same "leftists" who give more conservatives and Republicans than liberals and Democrats seats and voices on their political discussion shows on the "liberal" media?

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In future I will try even harder to avoid you.

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...which is what you must do, when you cannot debate.

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Sorry but historically AND SPECIFICALLY WITH REFERENCE TO THE TOPIC UNDER DISCUSSION it is defined as European and I don't give a damn about the kind of "facts" you all make such a nitpicking big pedantic deal out of in your crabbed pinched and myopic manner here at EvC. On a COFFEE HOUSE thread about a PHILOSOPHICAL topic for crying out loud. Get real.

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...and a nanny-nanny, boo-boo to you, too, Faith.LOL!